“The world that awaits us, if our New Masters
prevail, will be a grim dystopia. It will be a spiritual wasteland in which an
unprincipled elite rides roughshod over the teeming masses. It will be a cruel
world of exploitation, moral darkness, and unspeakable brutality.” ~ Lasha
Darkmoon, America Vanquished
The
following is a discussion between famed Israeli author Israel Shamir and Dr.
Lasha Darkmoon, author of two pieces posted here recently. Personally, I feel
that this discussion has exposed Israel Shamir as yet another Zionist apologist.
Rather on a scale with Richard Goldstone who has sunk from an internationally
renowned man of law to a Zionist bootlicker.
Mr. Shamir is beloved around the world for his stance on Zionism. He is regarded as a self-hater by many I would imagine. However, we all know that a good disinformant will offer valid truths from 85% to 95% but the rest of the percentage will be just that, disinformation. Mr. Shamir's Zionist blue roots show here, very clearly.
These two links lead you to the essay under discussion:
AMERICA VANQUISHED ~ PART 2:AMERICA UNDER JEWISH RULE
As you
read, you will find Shamir makes some pretty outrageous statements about world
Jewry that just do not stand up to debate as Dr. Darkmoon proves.
Update, November 8, 2011: Aangirfan passed along the following links to me. Quite relevant to the following discussion I would say.
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/11/israel-shamir-is-fake.html
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/12/assange-shamir-disinformation-agents.html
Update, November 8, 2011: Aangirfan passed along the following links to me. Quite relevant to the following discussion I would say.
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/11/israel-shamir-is-fake.html
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2010/12/assange-shamir-disinformation-agents.html
DARKMOON UPON AMERICA
By Israel Shamir
Response, Pictures and Captions by Lasha Darkmoon
The gifted British poet Lasha Darkmoon recently
published a new essay in two parts called America
Vanquished, claiming that the
US, Germany and Russia were colonised by Jews.
How close to truth is she? Being a Gothic poet, she
embellished her essay a lot, but here is the important part. She says:
In short, the Jews took over America and turned it into a Jewish colony. As simple as that. Their American hosts were hoist with their own petard.But why worry? American Jews are Americans, are they not? If they’re smart enough to take over America, as they have demonstrably done, why shouldn’t they proceed to the next logical step and take over the world ~ yes, dominate the world through America? No one denies this is America’s aim: full-spectrum dominance. So if the Jews control America, and if America controls the world, doesn’t it follow logically that the Jews control the world? The logic is irrefutable.Jewish world domination takes on a different perspective when viewed through this historical prism. No “conspiracy theories” here. No hook-nosed Jews grasping the globe in their cruel talons. No Illuminati trying to sodomize your children and drink their blood. Just logic. Just history. Just America striving for full-spectrum dominance ~ with Jews leading the pack.You could say the wild-eyed dreams of the Protocols have at last been realized, but not in the way their original masterminds intended.
ANTI-SEMITIC CARTOON OF THE PREDATORY JEW GRASPING THE GLOBE IN HIS TALON-LIKE CLUTCHES (French caricature, 1898). “No hook-nosed Jews grasping the globe in their cruel talons. No Illuminati trying to sodomize your children and drink their blood. Just logic. Just history. Just America striving for full-spectrum dominance with Jews leading the pack.” ~ Lasha Darkmoon.
Lasha Darkmoon claims, that if the Jews form an
elite in the US, then US world dominance is a form of Jewish world dominance.
Her second claim is that the US has become a colony
of Israel. She even claims that “America is now Israel’s slave”.
There is a huge logical leap here: even if US Jews
form an important part of the US elites, why would they give away their
leadership to their cousins and brethren in the Middle East?
DARKMOON:
(stepping in) Good point, Mr. Shamir. Now consider my logic and try to
refute this:
If the Israeli Jews give the orders to the American Jews, and if the American Jews control America, then clearly America has become an Israeli colony.But if, on the contrary, American Jews exercise all the power and tell the Israeli Jews what to do, then clearly Israel is an American colony. The logic is inescapable.
Let’s go to the next step.
Once it is admitted that America is controlled by its Jews, whether Israeli Jews or American Jews, America becomes in effect a JEWISH colony.Given that American Jews were former immigrants to America who have managed to “take over” America, you could say that Jewry has colonized America. Ergo: no matter which way you slice it, America is either an Israeli colony or a Jewish colony. The logic of my argument, I put it to you, is irrefutable.We can take this therefore as proven: if America is not an Israeli colony, taking its orders from Israeli Jews, then it is a Jewish colony, taking its orders from American Jews.
SHAMIR:
World Jewry is a project rather than reality; in real life, Jews of different
countries do not feel themselves a single united body though they do interact.
Compare them with Catholics: these have the Pope and a single hierarchy, and
still they are united in prayer only. Jews have no Pope, no hierarchy, and are
even less united.
DARKMOON:
Jews less united than the goyim? Wow! I never thought any group could be
less united than the goyim, or more united than the Jews in knowing “what is
good for the Jews”. If you are trying to convince us that the Jews are
DISUNITED just because no two Jews think alike, some preferring Buddhism to
Judaism and others preferring kippas to hats, then you are on very shaky ground
indeed!
We are well aware that no two individuals, whether
Jewish or non-Jewish, think alike; just as we are aware that no two individuals
have identical fingerprints. It doesn’t follow from this, however, that people
with different opinions are going to be disunited, any more than it follows
that people with different fingerprints are going to be disunited.
To say that Jews lack unity is almost like saying America lacks military power.Or the Queen of England is short of cash.The Jews have far more unity, I put it to you, than any other ethnic group in the world. This fundamental cohesion of the Jews is something I have pointed out in my recent essay America Vanquished:
“The extraordinary success of the Jews, who make up
only 2.5 percent of America’s population, can be attributed to meticulous
organization, coordination and networking. This advantageous cohesiveness
derives from an evolutionary characteristic of the Jews: an exceptionally
strong ethnocentricism which has enabled them to infiltrate almost every single
organization that could possibly threaten them as a group.” (See here)
Despite the superficial differences between various
types of Jews, the Jews are surely a paradigm of unity and cohesion compared to
other ethnic groups.
You yourself, Mr Shamir, have written: “Palestine is
not the Ultimate goal of the Jews; the world is.”
Consider that statement. Can you seriously tell me
that the Jews are likely to achieve this grandiose goal of world domination by
being disunited and disorganized? By lacking coordination? No, of course not!
One could supply countless arguments to demonstrate
the remarkable unity of the Jews in achieving “what is good for the Jews”.
Pray tell: how did the Jews manage to take over the
mass media, Hollywood, academia, the judiciary, the executive branches of
government, Wall Street, the world’s banking system, the lavishly funded Think
Tanks, even the porn industry, if they were disorganized and disunited?
The major Jewish organizations that crisscross
America like a spider’s web ~ AIPAC being only one of them ~ can hardly be
accused of ineffective disunity.
You’ve heard of mesira, the code of honor
among Jews that make them stick together through thick and thin, never
betraying an organ-stealing rabbi or even a serial killer to the goy
authorities. Isn’t sticking together the ultimate form of unity?
You’ve heard of the Sayanim, Mossad’s one
million worldwide helpers. How these faceless individuals, all Jews living in
lands outside Israel, work away for Israel in providing “safe houses”,
transportation, access to communications networks and other facilities for
Mossad spies. Full details of the existence of the Mossad Sayanim network were
given in the 1994 book The Other Side of Deception by Victor Ostrovsky, himself a renegade
Mossad agent.
The Jewish Sayanim remind me of bees, all buzzing
away for the common good, all united by a common purpose: to cram the
hive full of honey.
One final point, Mr Shamir, which I know will make
you graciously concede victory to me on this vitally important issue: in saying
that “the Jews have no Pope, no hierarchy, and are even less united” than the
goyim, you are guilty of a glaring contradiction.
Wasn’t it only a few years ago that you argued the
very opposite? Far from implying that the Jews were a disunited group, you
stated that they possessed an almost supernatural unity, comparing them to
locusts that moved in ordered formation to achieve their common goal.
“It is hard to swallow that the Jews have a
strategy,” you said, “but no strategist. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion
are popular precisely because they posit such a supreme strategist.” And then,
to drive home the point, you added the famous quotation from the Bible:
‘The locusts have no king, yet they attack in
formation’ and devastate whole countries as if by plan.” (Cabbala of Power, p.13)
That last phrase ~ “and devastate whole countries as
if by plan” ~ is your own. You are daringly comparing the Jews to locusts who
have an uncanny and almost supernatural ability to act in unison.
CAN JEWS BE COMPARED TO LOCUSTS, ACTING IN
COORDINATION? “The locusts have no king, yet they attack in formation”
(Proverbs 30:27) and devastate whole countries as if by plan.
SHAMIR:
Israel is a very important element of Jewish life, Lasha, but this does not
mean an Israeli Prime Minister can order Jews around.
Granted, politically active Americans think that one
can’t succeed without Jewish support. This much we can learn from the
incredible reception of Netanyahu in the Capitol and from Obama’s capitulation.
And US politicians think that the US Jews love Israel;
that is why they express their love of Israel.
However, the American Jews’ feelings towards Israel
are not that straightforward. Remember a prominent American Jewish politician
Henry Kissinger? He facilitated the greatest Arab attack on Israel in 1973 in
order to take Israel down a notch.
So, US Jews are certainly an important part of the
US elites. Consequently they influence world politics, while the Israeli Jews
are just family and friends of these powerful American Jews. This is the secret
of Israeli influence: without the support of American Jews, Israel would
shrink to its normal size.
The US Jews’ position in the US is so strong because
US society has been formed and influenced by the Jewish spirit of predatory
capitalism, as expounded by such diverse thinkers as Karl Marx, Werner Sombart
and Milton Friedman. Defeat of financial predatory capitalism could undo the
Jewish hold. It would de-Jewify the Jews and society in general.
And here we come to your second claim, Lasha:
namely, that Russia and Germany are colonized by Jews. Even granting your
poetic licence, this is far from the truth. Germany is not colonized by Jews;
it is still occupied by the US troops.
DARKMOON:
I’m not disagreeing with you, Mr. Shamir, about Germany being under US
occupation. In fact, I quote Eustace Mullins in Part 1 of my essay saying
exactly the same thing. But I certainly never said that Germany had been
“colonized by Jews”. Where did I say that? I would never have made such a
ridiculous statement. I said that about America, but not about Germany.
SHAMIR:
Jews play a negligible part in modern German life, Lasha. Even after the defeat
of the Third Reich, there was no resurgence of the Jewish spirit. Germany has a
strong social security structure. Predatory financial capitalism has made
few inroads. Germany is not a neoliberal state. The Germans pay tribute to
Israel, that’s true; but this is only a result of American occupation. The West
Germans are indeed indoctrinated in guilt feelings towards Jews, but East
Germans have no guilt feelings whatsoever, and they influence the totality of
German feelings. If and when US troops leave Germany, Germany will reassert
itself.
Again, Russia is not colonized by Jews. Some Jewish
oligarchs were expelled, and others were imprisoned by Putin. Russia usually
votes against Israel in the UN and supplied enemies of Israel with its advanced
weaponry. Russia now has fewer Jews than Scotland: about two hundred thousand
altogether by official census, and twice that much by overblown Jewish organizations’
estimate. Granted, Russia has no anti-Semitism, and it has some influential
Jews, but the important decisions are not made by them.
Was Russia “colonized by Jews” after the October
1917 revolution? This is the weakest part of your essay, Lasha. I’m afraid you
know little about this subject and just repeat the silly claims of others.
DARKMOON:
Again, Mr. Shamir, I must point out with all due respect that at no time did I
ever claim that Russia was “colonized by Jews”, nor did I even imply it. The
same with Germany. However, if that is the impression I gave you, then I must
apologize for not making my meaning clearer.
SHAMIR:
You tell us that important Bolsheviks used pseudonyms; true, but this is not
always connected with their Jewishness. Lenin’s real name was Ulyanov, but this
is not a Jewish name. The early Bolsheviks were guerrilla fighters, and they
used all sorts of names to evade surveillance. This is also a part of
underground ethos.
DARKMOON:
Again, I am in full agreement with you, Mr. Shamir. So there’s no point ticking
me off for disagreeing with you!
What I said in my article was that almost every
single revolutionary Jew in Bolshevik Russia hid behind a non-Jewish name. This
was either because they were engaged in subversive activities or because they
were anxious to avoid being the victims of the virulent anti-semitism of those
times.
Pseudonyms were adopted by non-Jews just as
frequently if they were involved in seditious activities. Stalin, whose real
name was Joseph Djugashvili, had at least 40 pseudonyms. See Simon Seebag
Montefiore’s Young Stalin,
p.395, for a list of his false names. Lenin, who was half Jewish, not only had
over a hundred bogus names, but also went in for glued-on wigs and giant
spectacles!
SHAMIR:
Abu Jihad, Abu Ammar and Abu Mazen are nicknames, but surely they are not Jews.
You and your readers, Lasha, should read Lindemann’s book Esau’s Tears.
This deals extensively with the question of the Bolshevik leaders Jewishness.
These crazy numbers you quote ~ “66 million Russian
Christians killed by Jews” ~ “out of 388 members of the new revolutionary
government in Russia, only sixteen were real Russians” ~ were invented by
anticommunists.
DARKMOON:
Good point, Mr Shamir. I concede that the 66 million figure is probably a gross
exaggeration, just as the SIX MILLION FIGURE is often alleged to be.
(Note, I myself make no comment on this figure, since mathematics is not my
forte.)
However, both figures have been advanced by their
respective propagandists. I decided to quote the 66 million figure for two
reasons:
(a) because I believe it was mentioned by the great Solzhenitsyn who was not given to lying; and(b) because the 66 million figure is actually mentioned in the title of Eustace Mullins’ classic essay, “The Secret Holocaust”, which I quoted extensively in my article. (See here). Since I was quoting from Mullins, I decided to quote his figures also, giving my readers his viewpoint.
The most conservative figure for the Russian Holocaust,
now agreed upon by specialist historians and even cited in the Times newspaper
(UK) is 50 million dead Russians. This figure was achieved within a
36-year period of mass murder (1917-1953), initiated by Lenin the half-Jew and
continued by Stalin, a Georgian non-Jew, who surrounded himself on all sides by
Jewish commissars and sexy young Jewesses he liked to bed.
If you think fifty million deaths is an inflated
figure, I assure you it is not.
One Jew alone, the infamous Lazar Kaganovich,
personally claimed responsibility for killing twenty million. It was he who
stood atop the rubble of a Christian church and proclaimed, “Mother Russia has
been cast down! We have torn away her skirts!”
Apart from Kaganovich, there were other Jews who
contributed to the massacre of Christians under the cruelest circumstances:
Ilya Ehrenburg, Natalfy Frenkel, Mathias Berman, Genrikh Yagoda (lingerie
pervert), and, last but not least, Lavrenti Beria ~ though Beria may or may not
have been Jewish.
Mainstream historians assert that he was not.
But they would, wouldn’t they? ~ given that Beria
was not only a mass murder of peasants, but also a bloodthirsty sex maniac and
pedophile who buried children in his basement ~ probably alive. (See here
and here,
pp. 516-519).
At no other time in the history of the world has a
country been so saturated with Jewish influence as it was between 1917 and 1953
in the Soviet Union: the time of the great gulags and the merciless slaughter
of the peasants.
America now faces a similar saturation problem.
There have been no Soviet-style massacres in America ~ not yet, thank God. But
who knows what grisly surprises history has up its sleeve?
If the Jews can kill 50 million people in Russia and
get away with it, they can kill 50 million people in America too, but maybe
they won’t get away with it so easily next time. If they can do it once, they
can do it twice ~ unless the leopard changes its spots.
SHAMIR: We know that imperialist propaganda is able
to utilize anti-Jewish prejudice in its own interests: thus, when the Empire
bombed Libya, its propagandists improbably claimed that Qaddafi is a Jew and a sympathizer
of Israel. When the Empire hunted Julian Assange, its fifth column claimed that
he is a Mossad agent. For this reason one should be cautious at accepting such
claims: they can be done by enemies with subversive purpose.
Jews played an important part in Soviet Russia’s
life, and they paid for that by their obedience and strict observance of
Russia’s interests. If they strayed, they were severely punished by Stalin; if
they played ball, they were allowed to stay in positions of power.
The lesson of Soviet Russia and Jews was directly
opposite to that read by Lasha: even if Jews play an important role in the
country, a determined ruler can correct and limit their influence.
This can be done by undoing financial capitalism.
Not in vain, some Jewish pundits describe Occupy Wall Street as an
“anti-Semitic movement”. Though the participants surely harbor no evil thoughts
about the Jews, their goal of destroying the neoliberal model is at variance
with Jewish power structures. Without their money, the Jews will shrink into
mere shadows of themselves, and the nightmare will be over.
“More than one family friend has mentioned that, for
every meal, the Rothschild family sets a place at the table for Lucifer.” ~
Fritz Springermeier, quote and picture found here.
.
DARKMOON:
(summing up): I am not really in disagreement with you on most important
points. Even though I have accused you of being guilty of a “glaring
contradiction” ~ your apparent U-turn on the unity of the Jews, once united
like a swarm of locusts flying in ordered ranks, now disunited and split into
several conflicting groups ~ this need not in fact be a contradiction at
all. It could be a development or new nuance to your views, an added
complexity; indeed, a kind of paradox in which the Jews are united and
disunited at the same time, just as the universe is filled with light and
darkness at the same time and good and evil exist simultaneously in the same
heart.
On one point, however, I am forced to take issue
with you: I never said that Germany and Russia were “Jewish colonies”.
America, yes; but not Germany and Russia. And
America only in a metaphorical sense. To all intents and purposes, America has
become a Jewish colony.
Jews did not emigrate to Germany and Russia en masse
as they emigrated to the United States.
They were already well entrenched in Germany and
Russia, part of the unassimilated population of those two nations for several
centuries. They sprung to prominence in Germany, reaching their maximum degree
of influence in the time of the Weimar Republic (1919-1933), just before the
ascent of Hitler to power.
In Russia, the Jews sprung to similar
prominence at the time of the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, led on by the Jew
Lenin and his Shabbat goy henchman, Stalin, who was later to become the world’s
greatest mass murderer ~ aided and abetted by his closely knit contingent of
court Jews.
See Simon Sebag Montefiore’s sensational 2-part
biography Young Stalin
and Stalin: The Court of the Red Tsar.
Never before have I read a biography with so many
Jews in the forefront, all seething like maggots in the rich soil of Mother
Russia, all thirsting like vampires for the blood of their Christian victims.
Full marks to Simon Sebag Montefiore, himself a Jew,
for having the courage to draw our attention to these frightening freaks of
nature.
“ANOTHER PEOPLE WILL POSSESS YOUR LAND…” ~ Lasha
Darkmoon, ‘The Coming Doom’
Life
is too short and precious to waste it on “anti-Semitism”. One has to move
beyond this puerile response to Jewish world supremacy. Perhaps the role of the
Jew in human affairs is to be the beast of prey that teaches the rest of us to
run a bit faster.
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- Aangirfan
Thanks for the links. I have posted them over at Darkmoon's site on the appropriate page. Some lively commentary goes on over there.
ReplyDeleteNoor: Many thanks for posting this. I envy you your computer skills and your artistic flair. Apart from the content being highly relevant and readable, this is by far the most visually stunning website I've ever seen. Almost psychedelic. I give you a gold star!
ReplyDeleteBtw, you've made a typo in your epigraph at the top of the page: "Our talents, our possibilities and OR lives are all the property of other men."
Peace and blessings,
Lasha