By Gary Corseri
I grew up in New York City, and have traveled and lived in different parts of the world, including about 18 years in the “Peachtree State” of Georgia. For almost as long as I lived there, I’d heard of Cynthia McKinney ~ the first African-American woman to represent Georgia in the U.S. House of Representatives.To be honest, a great deal that I heard from the Mainstream Media was negative, portraying Ms. McKinney as a crazy shrew, an over-the-top black radical who questioned the official story of 9/11; opposed the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan ~ and, recently, in Libya; opposed Israeli policies, and supported Palestinian demands for statehood.About three years ago, I heard McKinney speak at a conference at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C. Instead of a crazy firebrand, I heard an intelligent, measured, if passionate, presentation of why she challenged US war policies.When I returned to Georgia, I wrote a friend in the UK about my hope to interview McKinney. My friend related a story about the Dignity ship, carrying food and medical supplies to Palestine, in 2008, rammed by the Israeli Navy in international waters.McKinney was on that ship, and when it was rammed, she turned to my friend’s brother and said, “David, I can’t swim.”Nothing I had ever heard about McKinney revealed her character more succinctly. This is a woman willing to put her life on the line in support of her principles. Missing from the Mainstream Media depictions were the human and humane aspects of her character. The MSM has too-often portrayed the struggle for justice as irrational, or even fanatical. I needed to know more. ~ Gary Corseri
Gary
Corseri: Let’s start with a big one… about the day that changed
everything ~ 9/11.
[And, for a sense of the very sharp way McKinney performed her
duties ~ and the People’s business ~ in the US House of Representatives, while
on the Budget Committee, I recommend checking out this 9-minute 2006 YouTube video of her grilling Secretary of
Defense Rumsfeld, General Meyers, and Tina Jonas about 9/11 and related
matters.]
In 2004, you signed the 9/11 Truth Movement statement, calling
for new investigations of “unexplained aspects of the 9/11 events.” More than 7
years have passed since then. What would you say are some of the more egregious
“unexplained events”?
Cynthia
McKinney: How is it that the people of the United States can invest
trillions of dollars in the military and Intelligence infrastructure ~ and it
failed four times in one day? … That singular question has never been answered.
GC: Staying
with 9/11. … Distorted as they have been by the Mainstream Media, your views
have caused uninformed Americans to question your patriotism. In 2005, you held
Congressional briefings on the official 9/11 Commission Report.
CM: Yeah, the
only official briefing on that subject held on Capitol Hill, period!
GC: Well… The Atlanta-Journal Constitution
editorialized that.
CM: Oh, you
mean, The Urinal-in-Constipation!
[General laughter
in the room.]
GC: They
editorialized that…
CM: You call
them legitimate? I won’t even legitimize them with a response! Whatever they
say is bogus! You got another quote from somebody?
GC: No, well,
hear me out.
CM: I’m not
going to respond to anything they say!
GC: Well, you
did, in fact, respond to an editorial they wrote when they editorialized that
the briefings you were holding were to determine whether the Bush
administration had prior knowledge of the attacks. That was their editorial!
You replied, but they refused to publish your response. So, how did you
respond? Can you tell us now?
CM: Oh, I can’t
even remember back that far, but, I think the record now reflects what Bush
knew… and I’m sure that part of what I said is that I would never try to go
inside George Bush’s brain to see what’s there!
GC: Too many
maggots?
[Laughter.]
GC: So, your
main question is: Where was our air force, why didn’t they prevent it.
CM: We know
where they were. The question is, Why didn’t they follow standard operating
procedures?
GC: And the
other questions about buildings free-falling into their footprints. Building 7.
CM: Look, I
spent last September 11 in the home of a woman who is afflicted with cancer because
she lived near the World Trade center. And all of that dust came into her
apartment and she had to clean it up. She will never figure into any of the
statistics about who has been affected ~ her situation will never count but it
counts to me, and to all of the other members of the 911 Truth Community.
GC: Let’s
explore another controversial issue linked to you. Ms. McKinney, what does the
number “88794” signify for you?
CM: That was
the number that was assigned to me by the Israeli prison system when ~ on my second
attempt to get into Gaza ~ I was kidnapped on the high seas in international
waters and taken against my will to Israel and put in prison. David Halpin, the
UK physician, and I sat next to each other because the volunteers ~ the activists
that were on the boat ~ were international and spoke different languages so I
sat next to the English doctor and he railed, he railed, he railed as the
warship came close to us, then backed off, then approached us again ~ very quickly
and very quietly ~ in this cat-and-mouse game. And he cursed my government because
it was with the assistance of the United States that those engines had been
provided to the Israeli military so that they could do what they were doing to
us. …
GC: Did you
join him in the cursing?
CM: No. In
fact, I do a lot of apologizing! I can say this: In the struggle for human
rights, I consider prisoner # 88794 a badge of honor that I’ve acquired as a
result of what I have chosen to do to assert my own right to recognize the
human rights and the dignity of other people.
GC: Let’s
continue with this theme of recognizing other people’s human rights. More
recently, this past year, you were in Tripoli when NATO bombed Libya. What were
you doing there and can you describe that experience?
CM: I
voluntarily went to Libya. Any time the
War Machine rolls ~ I have to oppose that! Libya was a special case, a personal
case because I had just been to Libya. I had taken a delegation of independent
journalists to go to Libya because I did not believe the explanation that was
given to the public about the necessity to bomb Tripoli and other cities in
Libya. While we were there we experienced what “shock and awe” is all about.
The individual who went to the UN with allegations of thousands dying at the
hands of Colonel Gaddhafi and the Libyan government ~ when he was pressed to
substantiate his claims, he couldn’t.
GC:That
reminds me of the allegations made against the Iraqis in Kuwait, back in
1990–that they were taking babies out of incubators and throwing them on the
floor!
CM: It’s also
a situation similar to that of the Cuban-American community congregated down in
Miami… right after the Cuban Revolution in 1959 where we had a community of
expatriates who were willing to unleash terror on their own country and, a
similar thing was happening in Libya with the United States providing financing
for these individuals willing to lie about what was happening.
This information is available on the Internet. Julien Teil interviewed
the individual making these false claims at the UN. The interview can be found
at www.laguerrehumanitaire.fr. It’s on YouTube, as well. Julien also
interviewed the woman at Amnesty International who had claimed that “African
mercenaries” were supporting Gaddafi’s repression of his people; but, when
challenged ~ and this was all after the devastation ~ she admitted that it was
“just a rumor.”
My colleague, David Josue, and I had been in Libya to attend a
conference for Africans on the continent as well as Africans in the diaspora.
And what the Jamahariya government had devised was a call to Africans in the
diaspora who were unhappy with their treatment at the hands of white Americans
or white Europeans, etc. ~ to come back home to Africa and to help Libya
rebuild Africa and rebuild itself.
[Interviewer’s NOTE: (from Wikipedia):
“Jamahiriya” is a term coined by Gaddafi, usually translated as “state of the
masses.”]
That was the purpose of this conference I had attended. And it was at that conference that the
Jamahiriya committed 90 billion dollars to help in the creation of The United
States of Africa. That would also include a million-person army for continental
Africa to drive back the attempts of AFRICOM and others to occupy the African
continent. That was in addition to the proposal for a gold-backed dinar for all
of Africa. The daughter of Kwame Nkruma was at that conference; the son of
Patrice Lumumba was at that conference; the grandson of Malcom X was there. The
atmosphere was electric with the idea of the re-building, the re-kindling of
the movement that these African leaders ~ or their forebears ~ represented.
Well that was all put to an end by NATO’s bombing.
[Interviewer’s NOTE (from Wikipedia):
The United States Africa Command (AFRICOM) is one of nine United Combatant
Commands of the United States Armed Forces.]
The attack on Libya was an attack on Africa! It was an attack on my
aspirations as a person of African descent to have a free and independent
Africa. That’s what was attacked!
GC: I’ve never
had as complete a picture of that. I’d heard that Gaddafi wanted to set up a
gold-backed dinar. In fact, people like Ron Paul even talk about using
gold-backed currency so I’ve heard that as a rationale for what we were doing
there ~ trying to prevent any challenge to the US dollar as the world’s reserve
currency. But, nobody has described the
situation as completely as you have.
My final question on Libya is this: You have praised Colonel
Gaddafi’s Green Book and the kind
of “direct democracy” advocated therein. Can you give us a brief lesson as to
how that “direct democracy” differs from our “representative democracy”?
CM: Our
“democracy” is neither democratic nor representative! But let’s start with what
the Jamahiriya means to me. The only
stake that I have is that I want to see a free and independent Africa, but the
type of government that Libya has should be determined by the Libyan people. I
don’t really have a say in that. And I shouldn’t have a say in how they dispose
of their governmental form. Therefore, it’s inexcusable to ask another country
to bomb your fellow countrymen if you really care about your country!
The Jamahiriya ~ which had the highest living standard in all of
Africa ~ had free education up through the Ph.D. level; free health care; free
utilities, subsidized ~ and free, if you were poor ~ housing; subsidized food;
subsidized transportation, including car expenses… and so, the necessities of
life were paid for by the direct democracy known as the Jamahiriya.
Can you imagine? I have a cousin who is $120,000 in student debt
in the U.S. She has a Master’s degree as a social worker. Now, if she had been
born in Libya ~ she would have no such debt. I went to a university outside of Tripoli and
asked the students about their tuition fees and the word didn’t translate. I
asked them about what they paid to attend the university. It was $9.00 per
year!
When I was in Congress, one of my allies was Senator Mike Gravel
and Senator Gravel’s initiative is about “direct democracy.” He had been to
Libya and he supported the establishment of the revolutionary committees which
was the way Libyans determined how they would use their oil money.
A question under discussion when I attended the conference there
was whether the subsidies for gas/petrol or the subsidies for education would
be increased! (In the US, under “austerity” measures, people are being told
which programs will be eliminated or eviscerated; in Libya, they were voting on
which programs would get increased subsidization!)
What I have said publicly is that what we have been seeing is
the Israelization of US policy. You know the only reason the Libyans took any
interest in me was that someone in Libya, looking at their television, saw me
having all these problems trying to get into Gaza and they said, “We want to
know her!”
That’s why I was invited to attend this conference on The Green Book ~ to explain
what I was trying to do in Gaza. And what I observed in Libya was the same kind
of collective punishment I observed in Gaza. People supporting their own
governments were being punished by outsiders who opposed those governments!
This is the kind of thing that happens in the absence of ethics
in journalism. Because we don’t have
journalists in the Mainstream ~ I call it the Special Interests Press ~ to
educate and provide information to citizens so they can make a critical
analysis of issues. That is absent. We need ethics in scholarship; ethics in
journalism, as well. The journalistic community has gone along with the kind of
death and destruction that has been visited upon Libya and so many other
countries.
We’re setting up drone bases all over Africa and people here
don’t even know, don’t begin to understand.
GC: You’ve
mentioned many potent issues, including the “Israelization of US policy.” I’d
like to explore that, and also explore the theme of alliances ~ even unlikely
alliances.
In the 2002 election to the House of Representatives, people
like your father and the editor and commentator Alexander Cockburn alleged that
your defeat by Denise Majette was a consequence of out-of-state Jewish
organizations and Jewish money working against you.
CM: That’s not
an allegation ~ that’s a fact! I was informed that I had been targeted by the pro-Israel
lobby by the media. I read about it in the papers! and the evidence is readily
available. So, the fact of being targeted by the number-one special interest
lobby in the United States means that there is an engagement in every aspect of
one’s political life.
GC: Well, ah,
let’s tackle this head-on: Are you anti-Semitic?
CM: Well, I’m,
ah… I’m no more anti-Semitic than any of the anti-Zionist Jews who I work with
on an almost-daily basis to correct US policy. And, I would suggest that the
real Semites are the Palestinians. And, therefore, I would suggest that I’m not
anti-Semitic, but that there are people who are anti-human rights, and there
are some people who are anti-peace, and there are some people who are pro-war…
and no matter who they are, I will always be against that because I. You see
what my my button says?
(She points to a button she is wearing on her blouse). My button
says, “I’m a peace-keeper” And, this one says, “War is a crime!”
GC: “Blessed
are the peace-keepers.
CM: When I was in Congress, I organized a Press Conference with
organizations like “Jewish Workers for Peace,” “Not in My Name, Women in Black
[www.womeninblack.org] ~ we had about ten organizations at that press conference…
and it was fantastic.
That night, the Atlanta news criticized me for associating with
“fringe Jewish elements”! Now… what’s a “fringe Jewish element”? It was the
Anti-Defamation League that was casting this aspersion!
Now, the Anti-Defamation League that I knew about is supposed to
be a Civil Rights organization. But the Anti-Defamation League, in practice,
filed an amicus brief with five white racists to dismantle the district ~ my
district! ~ that provided an opportunity for black people in the black belt of
Georgia to have representation! Those are the people who sent me to Congress to
represent them! I stand on their
shoulders, and I did my darnedest to represent them ~ and I was rewarded by the
Anti-Defamation League filing an amicus brief and a lawsuit to dismantle that
district and take representation away from those poor, black people.
GC: I can
certainly understand your indignation. And I don’t want to hammer this issue. But, this is on Wikipedia and, as one
researches you ~ this is what one comes across:
About that election with Majette, your father, a former state
representative in Georgia, stated that “Jews have bought everybody… And then he
spelled it, “J-E-W-S.” Now, personally, I always make a distinction between
Jews and Zionists ~ and you just did. I try to distinguish between people who
follow a religious tradition and those who assert a political-nationalist
ideology. And, ah I think writers like Gilad Atzmon, for example, have been
very clear about making that distinction in his recent work like The Wandering Who?.
CM: I haven’t
read that, but ...
GC: I haven’t read
it, but I’ve read about it.
CM: Gilad is
coming to Atlanta this month.
GC: Is he? I’d
like to meet him.
CM: Yes. … You
must come.
GC: I will!
But, ah, anyway do you think, in retrospect, you might recommend changing the terminology
a bit ~ just to broaden the dialogue and widen the base of opposition to
inhumane practices?
CM: Well… let
me tell you something. I want to talk to
you about. The first time my daddy got into trouble was when he said, “racist
Jew.” And, I had a Jewish friend who was trying to smooth things over. And I
asked her, “Is Jew a bad word? I didn’t know “Zionist” ~ I didn’t even know
that word at the time because here’s the thing: the Anti-Defamation League says
that they represent all Jews ~ that’s what they tell us. AIPAC, also.
So… I didn’t know that there was a word called “Zionist” until I
became involved with the Bertrand Russell tribunal on Palestine. And there was a famous Jewish lawyer who was
one of the leaders in that tribunal, and I went to him and I said, “Daniel, how
does your family feel about your being in this tribunal?” and he said, “My
family are anti-Zionist Jews.”
And I said, “I don’t know what that is!”
I was 50-something years old, and I’d never heard the language!
Now, of course, I’ve been exposed and I’m more sensitive that there’s a
difference. Now I have marvelous Jewish
friends and I understand the difference between Judaism and Zionism. Whoever
prays to whatever God is fine with me, but, a political ideology is quite different.
I know I have a lot to learn when it comes to Zionism and
Judaism. I’m not very religious but I am spiritual and I’m very interested in
people’s beliefs but, I’m more interested in the way people behave. So, I would
always say, Judge me on what I do more than on what I say. And, I acknowledge
that I can be wrong about what I say. … And, my father can be wrong about what
he said.
GC: Thank you
very much. I think you’ve clarified that
for a lot of people.
Now… this idea of building alliances. I’d like to discuss current events, namely,
the Presidential election
CM: Um-ha.
GC: First, a
re-cap: In 2008, disgusted with the Democratic Party, you were the Green Party
candidate for president. That same year, you joined a press conference held by
3rd party and independent candidates, including Ralph Nader and Ron Paul. The
participants agreed on 4 basic principles:
1. An early end to the Iraq War, and an end to threats of war against other countries, including Iran.2. Safeguarding privacy and civil liberties, including repeal of the Patriot Act, the Military Commisions Act and FISA legislation.3. No increase in the National Debt.4. A thorough investigation, evaluation and audit of the Federal Reserve System.
My question is this: If these different elements of Independent
thought could come together on these 4 basic principles in 2008, why can’t they
unite behind the same principles in 2012?
CM: They can.
GC: Isn’t it
possible to conceive a party that speaks for the majority of Independents, that
unites Independents? The 4 principles that united Independents then are still
very much with us ~ and in many ways the dangers are greater ~ the possibility
of war with Iran looms larger now, and there’s the National Defense
Authorization Act, as well as the other intrusions on privacy and civil
liberties. More Americans classify themselves as “Independents” than as
Republicans or Democrats. How can the varied strands of Independents work
together to defeat the Republicrats?
CM: The answer
to that question goes to the core of the kind of change we hope to initiate on
a policy basis. So… how do we do that? I
think the first thing is that we have to be willing to talk to each other. We
have to recognize that there’s commonality despite difference. So the thing
that allowed Nader and me and Paul to come together is that we were at least
willing to see areas of commonality. We should be able to do that across the
political spectrum.
And, in fact, when I was in the Congress, I was forced to do
that. As a Southerner, I ~ and as
someone who had to get votes ~ not lose them ~ I needed the endorsement of a
leader in the community and he was a Klan member and I had no choice. I asked
him for his support ~ and I got it! (After I sat there for over an hour and he
described to me how “confused” the people were because of the way they judged
the Ku Klux Klan to be racist!)
[Here, CM gives a
strong, hearty guffaw!]
And… I sat there and found a place where we could have a meeting
of the minds ~ and I did it!
GC: Related
question then: I’ve been criticized because I wrote an article, about a month
ago ~ “The Lion and the Ox” ~ praising Ron Paul’s stance on ending the wars,
ending the Empire, auditing the Fed. I also think his views on our antiquated,
absurd and minority-punishing drug laws are far more enlightened than anyone
else’s ~ with the exception of 2012 Green Party candidate, Jill Stein’s. Paul
makes a distinction between Capitalism and Corporatism ~ an important
distinction. Now, I’m not a Libertarian; I don’t agree with “unregulated”
Capitalism to the extent Paul and Libertarians do. But, I wonder: Given various
points of convergence, how can the Green Party and Libertarians work together
to overturn what we have in America today ~ basically, a one-party system, a
Corporate Party system, abetted by corporate media?
CM: Well, one
thing is that the Libertarians and the Greens could join forces ~ kind of a
united front. So, I’d like to see if those kinds of talks could get anywhere.
GC: A friend of
mine suggested a Paul-McKinney ticket.
CM: That was
your friend, huh?
GC: Well, you
know when I first heard that, I thought, “That’s crazy!” But I thought about
it, and I thought, “Why not? We live in crazy times.
CM: Yeah, we
do.
GC: I mean look
what we have to choose from: Santorum, Michelle Bachman, Hermain Cain,
Gingrich, Romney ~ all these crazy people.
CM: Every time
there’s a vote, it gets more outrageous, doesn’t it?
GC: It does!
Well what do you think about Paul-McKinney?
CM: Well we’re
not there yet, so I don’t have to think about it at all!
GC: Well.
CM: Let me put
it this way. We do have overlapping
constituencies. So… it would be wonderful if the two circles could expand
beyond their points of intersection. And I’m not just talking about Paul. I’m talking about people on the Left in
general. Because, there’s no more Left
and Right. It’s only Right and Wrong, now and the old “Right” is Wrong and the
old “Left” needs to be more Right. Does that make sense?
GC: Yes.
CM: Yeah, because
the Left is being co-opted. So, the Left needs to be more Left!
GC: There
needs to be a convergence where the Greens and the Libertarians can meet…
CM: And the
militia! You know I have to deal with the militia, too. I’m from Georgia, right?
They participate in the political system ~ to the extent that they do ~ and somebody
needs to be talking to’em because, ultimately, they’re a part of the 99%. And that’s the gift that the Occupy Movement
has given to us ~ they’ve given us a way to self-identify. Now we know ~ it’s
not about color, race, religion, gender, and sexual orientation ~ all of those
things. At the end of the day ~ if you’re part of the 99%, you’re part of us
and if you’re part of the 1% ~ you’re part of them!
GC: Related
question: Okay…also about Current Events: this is about the Occupy Movement,
then.
CM: Okay.
GC: We live in
a Surveillance State. Our license plate numbers are routinely recorded; we’re
finger-printed for jobs, our Social Security numbers serve as National I.D.’s,
our e-mails are monitored for “code” words or phrases, our homes are surveiled
by satellite mapping systems of Google, Yahoo, etc.
Those who protest, as in the Occupy Wall Street movement, are
arrested, booked, and more closely watched. Now they have “records” that affect
their employment.
My question is: how do we battle this pervasive system?
Do you get discouraged?
What do you do when you are discouraged?
Who are your “heroes”?
To whom do you turn for inspiration?
CM: Do I get
discouraged? Yes!
What do I do when I’m discouraged? I find other people who are
not yet discouraged!
Who are my heroes? Everybody! Everybody who has a tough row to
hoe in life! Those are my heroes. Those are the people who give the most! When
I was running for Congress back in 1992–for the first time ~ I was running to
represent the second poorest district in Georgia and, what I learned was that
the poor people gave the most! The people who had didn’t give as generously as
the people who didn’t have! So my first campaign theme was, “Warriors don’t wear
medals, they wear scars!” So my heroes are the community and neighborhood
warriors who have a whole lot of scars, a whole lot of dignity.
GC: I’d like
you to talk specifically about what used to be called the Black Liberation
Struggle. As a young, white man, I was inspired by the works of black writers
like Richard Wright, James Baldwin, Leroi Jones (now called Baraka), Eldridge
Cleaver, W.E.B. DuBois, and poets like Langston Hughes. Martin Luther King and
Malcom X were inspirational leaders for all people; Rosa Parks was a woman of
quiet, dignified courage.
But, now, with the election of Obama, and with the prominence of
people like Bill Cosby first, and Oprah Winfrey, the billionaires ~ the great
struggles of the past almost seem quaint. What’s your take on this?
Who are the great black leaders today? What is the struggle
about today?
[Note:There are 7 million Americans now under “correctional
observation.” More African-Americans’ lives intersect with our
prison-industrial-surveillance complex than there were African-American slaves
in 1850!]
CM: You asked
me who are my heroes. One of my heroes
is Glen Ford, who writes for The Black Agenda Report. I view him
as the most astute political observer of our times.
There’s a whole lot of pundits who are in our faces every Sunday
morning who think they are political observers, but they are not astute! And
they’re also not independent. Glen Ford is independent, he’s been through the
wars and he has no special interests to kowtow to. He just wrote a piece “Can the Proud African-American
Progressive Legacy Survive Another Four Years of Cowing to the Corporate
Servant in the White House?” That’s strong stuff, but right on point!
We have a situation now; it was the Black struggle that really
defined morality in the United States. It defined the moral imperative. And the
character of the country was measured by how well it answered the call of Black
people for justice. But what happens when Black people stop asking for justice?
I think you get exactly what we’ve got now ~ a President who is
dropping bombs on Africa which is un-thought-of; I mean, it would have been
un-thought-of four years ago that Africa would be bombed ~ routinely! But it’s
a routine matter now that the United States Africa Command [AFRICOM] would
actively establish itself and militarize the US relationship with Africa.
AFRICOM represents a kind of US imperial occupation of the
continent that we haven’t seen since the days of outright colonialism of the
Europeans. We are being told about issues that are “important”, but we’re
ignoring the real issues that are important!
Henry Kissinger said that he couldn’t believe the amount of good
will that was embodied in this president! But what people like Kissinger don’t
“get” is that this president sits on top of the historic Black struggle that
characterized the United States to the world!
People around the world thought that Barack Obama characterized
the New United States! But… far from it! A lot of people got tricked and fooled
and now… as philosopher Michel Foucault has observed ~ the every-day actions of
ordinary people actually entrap them in “powerlessness”.
So, to break out of your powerlessness, you’ve got to break out
of your existing paradigm. So, as long as Barack Obama is representative of the
existing paradigm, this is what we’re going to get because the existing
paradigm is war and more war!
GC: How do we
“break out”? How do we fight the Mainstream Media that’s constantly projecting
that paradigm and hammering it into our brains?
CM: The
literature suggests that people have to be confronted with a “disorienting
dilemma” that causes them to reflect on what they’ve just experienced.
GC: Cognitive
dissonance?
CM: That’s
right. Reflect on what you always
assumed and what you’ve been confronted with that contradicts your assumptions.
For some people, it was the murder of JFK; for others, it was the murder of
Malcom; for others, it was the murder of MLK; for a whole bunch of others, it
was the murder of RFK; and for some people who began to look and pay attention like
me; it was the murder of all of them and then add onto it the murder of the members
of the Black Panther Party ~ who were attacked by our own government.
You could say that for me, my first “disorienting dilemma” was
when I realized that I was black. I realized that the world around me was not
like me, and that it didn’t value my black skin! That, for me was when I began
to pay attention and wake up!
GC: How old
were you?
CM: Seven or
eight. You know for some people it’s religion, it’s race, it’s gender, it’s,
maybe, sexual orientation. Everyone has
their moment of reckoning.
I think, ultimately it’s about the love we have for humanity and
how we see something is wrong and we have to stop it!
So by the time I got to Congress I had had my “reckoning,” and I
had had my “break-out” moments, and I guess this gave me strength and vibrancy
and there were people who didn’t like it. I wore my hair differently; I dressed
differently from the other people in Congress. There was even a segment of the
Capitol Hill police that didn’t like that.
GC: What year
was that?
CM: 1993.
GC: Wasn’t
there a much more recent incident with the Capitol Hill police?
CM: No, no,
no. It happened for twelve years! Twelve years of harassment from the Capitol
Hill police! They considered it a “sport” to harass me! It’s available on the Internet if you go to YouTube and you put in “The
Last Plantation.”
GC: The
infamous incident is when you apparently struck back at the officer who was
harassing you. Is that correct?
CM: The officer had no business putting his hands on me! And I
reacted like any normal person would react when being attacked by some great
big, huge guy from behind! This was a “hit.” It was a “hit” ~ a “sport” ~ for
the white officers. You’ll see if you go to that “Last Plantation” site that I
had been targeted because I had written a letter of support for the Black
Capitol Hill police officers.
GC: And this
most infamous incident that was the same day as House Majority Leader Tom DeLay
was indicted?
CM: That’s
right. The Mainstream Media didn’t want to lead with that indictment, did they?
It was much more sensational and distracting to lead with the story of a black
Congresswoman attacking a Capitol Hill police officer!
[Laughter]
GC: You’re a
pretty brave woman, aren’t you?
CM: Everybody
can be brave; they just need that break-out moment of recognition. I’ve stood on some big shoulders. As I said before ~ my campaign theme:
“Warriors don’t wear medals; they wear scars.”
I had the honor of meeting Cynthia McKinney in San Francisco while I was working on Cindy Sheehan's campaign for congress (Cindy and Cynthia are good friends). She struck me as a wonderfully warm and caring person and I'm proud to say I voted for her in the last presidential election.
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