Thursday 5 July 2012

JESUS: THE MUSLIM PROPHET

Jewish sources avoid the Greek name "Jesus", meaning 'savior', and abbreviate Jeschua to "Jeshu' which means "may his name be blotted out!"

This may be an older article but the information is more pertinent today than even a few years ago. When it comes to the Zionist menace that has been promoting a clash of civilizations for some time now by alienating the Muslim population from the rest of humanity, which has been going on since the earliest days of Hollywood, it is most necessary to get the truth out. ONLY through unification of Christians and Muslims do we stand a chance against our common enemy, Talmudic Judaism. This is why I have posted the Crescent and Cross symbol at the top of this blog.

Jesus is revered in Islam as you will read below. Of course there are theological differences between the two and some differing opinions on Him, but NEVER is he treated with less than the utmost respect. It is the media that has blown these differences all out of proportion whilst ignoring the attitudes of the Jewish population towards Christ.
“The Jews did kill Christ. I’d fuckin do it again. I’d do it again in a second.” ~ Sarah Silverman, Jewish “comic”
The author does not, of course, go into the truthful but dicey mention of how Jesus is viewed in Judaism. So I am point out a few things, as well as provide links. When it comes to Talmudic Judaism, the attitude is beyond the polar opposite; in it you find the claim that Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement." ~ Gittin 57a.  The references to Jesus and His Mother should be scurrilous to any decent Christian if they knew the truth of the matter.  At the end I have provided a plethora quotes from the Babylonian Talmud.

Unity is our only hope, our most positive weapon against organized international Jewry. It is time to rescue lost Christians from the Zionist curse under which they are held and only by getting out and TALKING will we ever get anywhere.

THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TALMUD

December 10. 2009

Christians, perhaps because they call themselves Christians and believe in Christianity, like to claim ownership of Christ. But the veneration of Jesus by Muslims began during the lifetime of the Prophet of Islam.

Perhaps most telling is the story in the classical biographies of Muhammad, who, entering the city of Mecca in triumph in 630AD, proceeded at once to the Kaaba to cleanse the holy shrine of its idols. As he walked around, ordering the destruction of the pictures and statues of the 360 or so pagan deities, he came across a fresco on the wall depicting the Virgin and Child.

He is said to have covered it reverently with his cloak and decreed that all other paintings be washed away except that one.

Jesus, or Isa, as he is known in Arabic, is deemed by Islam to be a Muslim prophet rather than the Son of God, or God incarnate. He is referred to by name in as many as 25 different verses of the Quran and six times with the title of “Messiah” (or “Christ”, depending on which Quranic translation is being used).
He is also referred to as the “Messenger” and the “Prophet” but, perhaps above all else, as the “Word” and the “Spirit” of God. No other prophet in the Quran, not even Muhammad, is given this particular honour.

In fact, among the 124,000 prophets said to be recognized by Islam ~ a figure that includes all of the Jewish prophets of the Old Testament ~ Jesus is considered second only to Muhammad, and is believed to be the precursor to the Prophet of Islam.
In his fascinating book The Muslim Jesus, the former Cambridge professor of Arabic and Islamic studies Tarif Khalidi brings together, from a vast range of sources, 303 stories, sayings and traditions of Jesus that can be found in Muslim literature, from the earliest centuries of Islamic history.

These paint a picture of Christ not dissimilar to the Christ of the Gospels. The Muslim Jesus is the patron saint of asceticism, the lord of nature, a miracle worker, a healer, a moral, spiritual and social role model.

“Jesus used to eat the leaves of the trees,” reads one saying, “dress in hair shirts, and sleep wherever night found him. He had no child who might die, no house which might fall into ruin; nor did he save his lunch for his dinner or his dinner for his lunch. He used to say, ‘Each day brings with it its own sustenance.’”

According to Islamic theology, Christ did not bring a new revealed law, or reform an earlier law, but introduced a new path or way (tariqah) based on the love of God; it is perhaps for this reason that he has been adopted by the mystics, or Sufis, of Islam.

The Sufi philosopher al-Ghazali described Jesus as “the prophet of the soul” and the Sufi master Ibn Arabi called him “the seal of saints”. The Jesus of Islamic Sufism, as Khalidi notes, is a figure “not easily distinguished” from the Jesus of the Gospels.

What prompted Khalidi to write such a pro­vocative book? “We need to be reminded of a history that told a very different story: how one religion, Islam, co-opted Jesus into its own spirituality yet still maintained him as an independent hero of the struggle between the spirit and the letter of the law,” he told me. “It is in many ways a remarkable story of religious encounter, of one religion fortifying its own piety by adopting and cherishing the master spiritual narrative of another religion.”

Islam reveres both Jesus and his mother, Mary (Joseph appears nowhere in the Islamic narrative of Christ’s birth). “Unlike the canonical Gospels, the Quran tilts backward to his miraculous birth rather than forward to his Passion,” writes Khalidi. “This is why he is often referred to as ‘the son of Mary’ and why he and his mother frequently appear together.”

In fact, the Virgin Mary, or Maryam, as she is known in the Quran, is considered by Muslims to hold the most exalted spiritual position among women. She is the only woman mentioned by name in Islam’s holy book and a chapter of the Quran is named after her. In one oft-cited tradition, the Prophet Muhammad described her as one of the four perfect women in human history.
ED: in the Talmud,  Mary, now burning in Hell, is spoken of thusly:

Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters."

Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.
But the real significance of Mary is that Islam considers her a virgin and endorses the Christian concept of the Virgin Birth. “She was the chosen woman, chosen to give birth to Jesus, without a husband,” says Shaykh Ibrahim Mogra, an imam in Leicester and assistant secretary general of the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB). 
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This is the orthodox Islamic position and, paradoxically, as Seyyed Hossein Nasr notes in The Heart of Islam, “respect for such teachings is so strong among Muslims that today, in interreligious dialogues with Christians . . . Muslims are often left defending traditional . . . Christian doctrines such as the miraculous birth of Christ before modernist interpreters would reduce them to metaphors.”
With Christianity and Islam so intricately linked, it might make sense for Muslim communities across Europe, harassed, harangued and often under siege, to do more to stress this common religious heritage, and especially the shared love for Jesus and Mary.
ED: Forget Europe, let’s go international on this!

There is a renowned historical precedent for this from the life of the Prophet. In 616AD, six years in to his mission in Mecca, Muhammad decided to find a safer refuge for those of his followers who had been exposed to the worst persecution from his opponents in the pagan tribes of the Quraysh.

He asked the Negus, the Christian king of Abyssinia (modern-day Ethiopia), to take them in. He agreed and more than 80 Muslims left Mecca with their families. The friendly reception that greeted them upon arrival in Abyssinia so alarmed the Quraysh that, worried about the prospects of Muhammad’s Muslims winning more allies abroad, they sent two delegates to the court of the Negus to persuade him to extradite them back to Mecca.

The Muslim refugees, claimed the Quraysh, were blasphemers and fugitives. The Negus invited Jafar, cousin of Muhammad and leader of the Muslim group, to answer the charges. Jafar explained that Muhammad was a prophet of the same God who had confirmed his revelation to Jesus, and recited aloud the Quranic account of the virginal conception of Christ in the womb of Mary:
And make mention of Mary in the Scripture, when she had withdrawn from her people to a chamber looking East,

And had chosen seclusion from them. Then We sent unto her Our Spirit and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man.

She said: Lo! I seek refuge in the Beneficent One from thee, if thou art God-fearing.

He said: I am only a messenger of thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a faultless son.

She said: How can I have a son when no mortal hath touched me, neither have I been unchaste?

He said: So (it will be). Thy Lord saith: It is easy for Me. And (it will be) that We may make of him a revelation for mankind and a mercy from Us, and it is a thing ordained.

Quran, 19:16-21
Karen Armstrong writes, in her biography of Muhammad, that “when Jafar finished, the beauty of the Quran had done its work. The Negus was weeping so hard that his beard was wet, and the tears poured down the cheeks of his bishops and advisers so copiously that their scrolls were soaked.” The Muslims remained in Abyssinia, under the protection of the Negus, and were able to practice their religion freely.

However, for Muslims, the Virgin Birth is not evidence of Jesus’ divinity, only of his unique importance as a prophet and a messiah.

The Trinity is rejected by Islam, as is Jesus’ Crucifixion and Resurrection. The common theological ground seems to narrow at this point ~ as Jonathan Bartley, co-director of the Christian think tank Ekklesia, argues, the belief in the Resurrection is the “deal-breaker”.

He adds: “There is a fundamental tension at the heart of interfaith dialogue that neither side wants to face up to, and that is that the orthodox Christian view of Jesus is blasphemous to Muslims and the orthodox Muslim view of Jesus is blasphemous to Christians.”

He has a point. The Quran singles out Christianity for formulating the concept of the Trinity:
Do not say, “Three” ~ Cease! That is better for you. God is one God. Glory be to Him, [high exalted is He] above having a son. ~  Quran 4:171
It castigates Christianity for the widespread practice among its sects of worshipping Jesus and Mary, and casts the criticism in the form of an interrogation of Jesus by God:
And when God will say: “O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘Take me and my mother as gods besides God’?” he will say, “Glory be to You, it was not for me to say what I had no right [to say]! If I had said it, You would have known it. ~ Quran 5:116
Jesus, as Khalidi points out, “is a controversial prophet. He is the only prophet in the Quran who is deliberately made to distance himself from the doctrines that his community is said to hold of him.”
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For example, Muslims believe that Jesus was not crucified but was raised bodily to heaven by God.

Yet many Muslim scholars have maintained that the Islamic conception of Jesus ~ shorn of divinity; outside the Trinity; a prophet ~ is in line with the beliefs and teachings of some of the earliest Jewish-Christian sects, such as the Ebionites and the Nazarenes, who believed Jesus to be the Messiah, but not divine.
Muslims claim the Muslim Jesus is the historical Jesus, stripped of a later, man-made “Christology”: “Jesus as he might have been without St Paul or St Augustine or the Council of Nicaea”, to quote the Cambridge academic John Casey.
Or, as A N Wilson wrote in the Daily Express a decade ago:
“Islam is a moral and intellectual acknowledgement of the lordship of God without the encumbrance of Christian mythological baggage.
That is why Christianity will decline in the next millennium, and the religious hunger of the human heart will be answered by the Crescent, not the Cross.”
Despite the major doctrinal differences, there remain areas of significant overlap, such as on the second coming of Christ. Both Muslims and Christians subscribe to the belief that before the world ends Jesus will return to defeat the Antichrist, whom Muslims refer to as Dajjal.

The idea of a Muslim Jesus, in whatever doctrinal form, may help fortify the resolve of those scholars who talk of the need to reformulate the exclusivist concept of a Judaeo-Christian civilization and refer instead to a “Judaeo-Christian-Muslim civilization”. 
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This might be anathema to evangelical Christians ~ especially in the US, where populist preachers such as Franklin Graham see Islam as a “very evil and wicked religion” ~ but, as Khalidi points out,
“While the Jewish tradition by and large rejects Jesus, the Islamic tradition, especially Sufi or mystical Islam, constructs a place for him at the very centre of its devotions.”
Nonetheless, Jesus remains an esoteric part of Islamic faith and practice.

Where, for example, is the Islamic equivalent of Christmas?

Why do Muslims celebrate the birth of the Prophet Muhammad but not that of the Prophet Jesus?
“We, too, in our own way should celebrate the birth of Jesus . . . [because] he is so special to us,” says Mogra. “But I think each religious community has distinct celebrations, so Muslims will celebrate their own and Christians their own.”
In recent years, the right-wing press in Britain has railed against alleged attempts by “politically correct” local authorities to downplay or even suppress Christmas. Birmingham’s attempt to name its seasonal celebrations “Winterval” and Luton’s Harry Potter-themed lights, or “Luminos”, are notorious examples.

There is often a sense that such decisions are driven by the fear that outward displays of Christian faith might offend British Muslim sensibilities, but, given the importance of Jesus in Islam, such fears seem misplaced. Mogra, who leads the MCB’s interfaith relations committee, concurs: “It’s a ridiculous suggestion to change the name of Christmas.” He adds: “Britain is great when it comes to celebrating diverse religious festivals of our various faith communities. They should remain named as they are, and we should celebrate them all.”

ED: The repression of Christmas comes from Talmudic Jews who hate Jesus so and wish to halt all celebration of His life. Please refer to the following series for proof:

MERRY CHRISTMAS: OFF WITH YOUR HEAD! Pt 1


MERRY CHRISTMAS: OFF WITH YOUR HEAD! Pt 2


MERRY CHRISTMAS: OFF WITH YOUR HEAD! Pt 3


MERRY CHRISTMAS: OFF WITH YOUR HEAD! Pt 4


Mogra is brave to urge Muslims to engage in an outward and public celebration of Jesus, in particular his birth, in order to match the private reverence that Muslims say they have for him.

Is there a danger, however, that Muslim attempts to re-establish the importance of Jesus within Islam and as an integral part of their faith and tradition might be misinterpreted?

Might they be misconstrued as part of a campaign by a supposedly resurgent and politicized Islam to try to take “ownership” of Jesus, in a western world in which organized Christianity is in seeming decline?

Might it be counterproductive for interfaith relations?

Church leaders, thankfully, seem to disagree.

“I have always enjoyed spending time with Muslim friends, with whom we as Christians have so much in common, along with Jewish people, as we all trace our faith back to Abraham,” the Archbishop of York, Dr John Sentamu, tells me.

When I visit a mosque, having been welcomed in the name of ‘Allah and His Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon Him’, I respond with greetings ‘in the name of Jesus Christ, whom you Muslims revere as a prophet, and whom I know as the Saviour of the World, the Prince of Peace’.”

Amid tensions between the Christian west and the Islamic east, a common focus on Jesus ~ and what Khalidi calls a “salutary” reminder of when Christianity and Islam were more open to each other and willing to rely on each other’s witness ~ could help close the growing divide between the world’s two largest faiths.

Mogra agrees:
“We don’t have to fight over Jesus. He is special for Christians and Muslims. He is bigger than life. We can share him.”
Reverend David Marshall, one of the Church of England’s specialists on Islam, cites the concluding comments from the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, at a recent seminar for Christian and Muslim scholars. He said he had been encouraged by “the quality of our disagreement”.

“Christians and Muslims disagree on many points and will continue to do so ~ but how we disagree is not predetermined,” says Marshall.

“Muslims are called by the Quran to ‘argue only in the best way with the People of the Book’ [Quran 29:46], and Christians are encouraged to give reasons for the hope that is within them, ‘with gentleness and reverence’ [1 Peter 3:15]. If we can do this, we have no reason to be afraid.”
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MORE INFORMATION:


Muslims respect and revere Isa (as) as a messenger of Allah (swt), and await his Second Coming where he will defeat the Dajjal (Flase Messiah/anti-Christ).

Muslims consider him one of the greatest of Allah’s (swt) messengers (as) to mankind. A Muslim never refers to him simply as ‘Isa’, but always adds the phrase ‘upon him be peace / (as)’. The Qur’an confirms his virgin birth [a chapter of the Qur'an is entitled 'Maryam (Mary)'], and Maryam (as) is considered the purest woman in all creation.

وَإِذْ قَالَتِ الْمَلاَئِكَةُ يَا مَرْيَمُ إِنَّ اللّهَ اصْطَفَاكِ وَطَهَّرَكِ وَاصْطَفَاكِ عَلَى نِسَاء الْعَالَمِينَ
Behold! the angels said: “O Maryam! Allah has chosen you and purified you- chosen you above the women of all nations.

إِذْ قَالَتِ الْمَلآئِكَةُ يَا مَرْيَمُ إِنَّ اللّهَ يُبَشِّرُكِ بِكَلِمَةٍ مِّنْهُ اسْمُهُ الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ وَجِيهًا فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالآخِرَةِ وَمِنَ الْمُقَرَّبِينَ
Behold! The angels said: “O Maryam! Allah gives you glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Massihu Isa (Christ Jesus), the son of Maryam, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah;

قَالَتْ رَبِّ أَنَّى يَكُونُ لِي وَلَدٌ وَلَمْ يَمْسَسْنِي بَشَرٌ قَالَ كَذَلِكِ اللّهُ يَخْلُقُ مَا يَشَاء إِذَا قَضَى أَمْرًا فَإِنَّمَا يَقُولُ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ
She said: “O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?” He said: “Even so: Allah created what He willed: When He has decreed a plan, He but said to it, ‘Be,’ and it is! ~ [Al Qur'an - Surah Al Imran (003:042-047)] 

“Be, and it is”! SubhanAllah (Glory be to Allah (swt)), this is the power of Allah (swt) that His mere Word “Be” causes His creation unlike what is written in the Bible that Allah (swt) “begot” Isa (as). Isa (as) is NOT a son of Allah (swt), he is the son of Maryam (as). Allah (swt) begets not, nor is He begotten. Isa (as) was born miraculously through the same power which had brought Adam (as) into being without a father.

إِنَّ مَثَلَ عِيسَى عِندَ اللّهِ كَمَثَلِ آدَمَ خَلَقَهُ مِن تُرَابٍ ثِمَّ قَالَ لَهُ كُن فَيَكُونُ
“The similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: “Be”. And he was.” ~ [Al Qur'an - Surah Al Imran (003:059)]

One may think that Isa (as) will have a “fierce” battle with the Dajjal, but in Islam Isa’s (as) mere breath/vision will be enough to kill the Dajjal. This is another of his miracles performed with the PERMISSION of Allah (swt) like his previous miracles. During his prophetic mission Isa (as) performed many miracles.

 The above all-too-common sentiment is just SO WRONG!

JESUS IN THE TALMUD

Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ

While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for the Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming and admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as a sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish organizations make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish supremacy is so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern themselves with adverse reactions.

For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch group ~ one of the largest in the world ~ we find the following statement, complete with Talmudic citations:

"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).

2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).

3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website) June 20, 2000.
Let us examine further some of these anti-Christ Talmud passages:
Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."

Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."
Kallah 51a.
"The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a bastard and a son of a niddah.

"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.

"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (Eternal life). She said to him, 'Swear it to me.'

"Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied, 'When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah.

"It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."
In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who "uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation). The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the hairdresser, in the Talmud).

"The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law, Maimonides' Mishneh Torah ~ replete not only with the most offensive precepts against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity and on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of the wicked perish')... ~ Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21.

"The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover does refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment in hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..." ~ Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.

"According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of rabbinical authority. 
The Rabbis are greater than the prophets".  ~ Baba Bathra, 12a,p.59
All classical Jewish sources which mention his execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the Talmudic account the Romans are not even mentioned.

"The more popular accounts ~ which were nevertheless taken quite seriously ~ such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this popular tradition still persists...

"The Hebrew form of the name Jesus ~ Yeshu ~ was interpreted as an acronym for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used as an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such as Neturey Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser Jesus" and more recently 'Arafat Jesus."  ~ Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118. 

"He disregarded the one, infinite G-d of the Hebrew Bible in favor of a new "trinity" that included himself. And he repeatedly broke the Law by committing terrible sins, while openly challenging the G-d-given authority of the rabbis of the Sanhedrin.” ~ in other words, the rabbis are the only voices of God? Yeppers, even GOD gives way before the arguments of a rabbi.
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"God intervenes in a rabbinical dispute and is logically defeated by a Rabbi. God proclaims the Rabbi the victor in the debate." (Baba Mezia, 59b, p. 353).

"Jesus was a bastard born of adultery." (Yebamoth 49b, p.324).

"Mary was a whore: Jesus (Balaam) was an evil man." (Sanhedrin 106a &b, p.725).

"Jesus was a magician and a fool. Mary was an adulteress". (Shabbath 104b, p.504).

"Christians are allied with Hell, and Christianity is worse than incest". (Abodah Zarah 17a, p.85).

"WHEN MESSIAH COMES HE WILL DESTROY THE CHRISTIANS". (Sanhedrin 99a,p.668).

"Those who read the Gospels are doomed to Hell". (Sanhedrin 90a, 100b, pp.601-602, 680)

4 comments:

  1. Well since Islam did not begin until Mohammad 600 years after Jesus walked this earth you're much confused.The bible predates Islamic Quran by thousands of years. Surah 19 calls Jesus blameless/Sinless.Quran say Mohammad was a sinner .Logic say that the blameless/sinless one born of a virgin is greater then the sinner. .Only God can be blameless /Sinless .Jesus was killed by the Romans and Jews why ? Becuase He said He was God in the flesh.Jesus said Love your enemies .Mohammad said kill them.Jesus said He was the only way to heaven. .

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    1. Your response is very confusing and makes little sense to me but thanks for your opinion.

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  2. You fear the truth of biblical quotations it seem .

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    1. Not at all. I just got tired of people coming and pasting quote after quote after quote and not saying anything. I would say the same if there was an excess of Koranic quotes or even ONE Talmudic quote so please do not assume. I feel obligated to read what is sent in to me and these types of things are a waste of time to me.

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