Ed
Noor:
Above, Saul's Conversion on the Road to Damascus. As a Catholic, this painting portrays a great Christian lie, according to the words of Rabbi Savage below. We were taught that Saul was struck by God and inspired to become a great promoter of Christianity in its infancy. He was moved from the soul; here we read of the first use of propaganda to subjugate a nation.
Here is a second piece by Rabbi Ravage, further elaborating on the premises he puts forth in the PART 1, regarding the origins of Christianity and its use as a weapon to destroy Rome. Previously we were taught that Rome fell due to lead plumbing, empirical and military over reach, degeneracy, etc etc. Some of us put the degeneracy at the feet of the same people who, over the centuries, have introduced perversions into morally upright cultures as a weapon of societal destruction. We see the same assaults on international societies today made much more challenging due to the nature of digital communications.
Above, Saul's Conversion on the Road to Damascus. As a Catholic, this painting portrays a great Christian lie, according to the words of Rabbi Savage below. We were taught that Saul was struck by God and inspired to become a great promoter of Christianity in its infancy. He was moved from the soul; here we read of the first use of propaganda to subjugate a nation.
Here is a second piece by Rabbi Ravage, further elaborating on the premises he puts forth in the PART 1, regarding the origins of Christianity and its use as a weapon to destroy Rome. Previously we were taught that Rome fell due to lead plumbing, empirical and military over reach, degeneracy, etc etc. Some of us put the degeneracy at the feet of the same people who, over the centuries, have introduced perversions into morally upright cultures as a weapon of societal destruction. We see the same assaults on international societies today made much more challenging due to the nature of digital communications.
I am
not a highly educated scholar. This material is simply being offered for you to
read; it is not found just anywhere. To be honest, I had not really thought
much about the origins of Christianity having been raised firmly Roman Catholic
in an Irish French family. Spending most of my life in the outdoors, completely immersed in the wilderness, I have ~ and and always will ~ resonated with nature. It was very natural for me to find the workings of God in the cathedral of a forest.
I don’t know what to think about the claims this rabbi makes, simply because he is a rabbi and you never really know what his motivation is when he makes such revelations. Although he speaks straight, in his words there are many labyrinth twists and turns that it will take me a little time to work this out, if it is worth working out.
PLEASE leave your comments on this. I truly am struggling with some of this and insight is greatly appreciated.
I don’t know what to think about the claims this rabbi makes, simply because he is a rabbi and you never really know what his motivation is when he makes such revelations. Although he speaks straight, in his words there are many labyrinth twists and turns that it will take me a little time to work this out, if it is worth working out.
PLEASE leave your comments on this. I truly am struggling with some of this and insight is greatly appreciated.
His
description of Saul’s thought processes regarding Christianity and Roman
subversion, however, rings true when you think of that Mossad motto:
By deception thou shall do war.
I have been making comparisons between the words and attitudes of Rabbi Ravage and Harold Rosenthal, interviewed some 50 years later who also exposed much hidden attitude and information. If you scroll to the bottom of this page, you will find in the MUST SEE section, a link to THE HIDDEN TYRANNY: THE INTERVIEW WITH HAROLD WALLACE ROSENTHAL
The
Century Magazine
February
1928
You
Christians worry and complain about the Jew's influence in your civilization.
We are, you say, an international people, a compact minority in your midst,
with traditions, interests, aspirations and objectives distinct from your own.
And you declare that this state of affairs is a menace to your orderly
development; it confuses your impulses; it defeats your purposes; it muddles up
your destiny. I do not altogether see the danger. Your world has always been
ruled by minorities; and it seems to me a matter of indifference what the
remote origin and professed creed of the governing clique is.
The influence, on the other hand, is certainly there, and it is vastly greater and more insidious than you appear to realize.
That
is what puzzles and amuses and sometimes exasperates us about your game of
Jew-baiting. It sounds so portentous. You go about whispering terrifyingly of
the Jew in this and that and the other thing. It makes us quake. We are
conscious of the injury we did you when we imposed upon you our alien faith and
traditions.
Suppose, we say trembling, you should wake up to the fact that your religion, your education, your morals, your social, governmental and legal systems are fundamentally of our making!
And
then you specify, and talk vaguely of Jewish financiers and Jewish
motion-picture promoters, and our terror dissolves into laughter.
The Goi,we see with relief,will never know the real blacknessof our crimes.
We
cannot make it out. Either you do not know or you have not the courage to
charge us with those deeds for which there is at least a shadow of evidence and
which an intelligent judge and jury could examine without impatience.
.
.
Why
bandy about unconvincing trifles when you might so easily indict us for serious
and provable offences? Why throw up to us a patent and a clumsy forgery such as
the Protocols of the Elders Zion when you might as well confront us with the
Revelation of St. John?
Why talk about Marx and Trotskiwhen you have Jesus of Nazerethand Paul of Tarsusto confound us with?
You
call us subverters, agitators, revolution-mongers. It is the truth, and I cower
at your discovery. It could be shown, with only the slightest straining and
juggling of the facts, that we have been at the bottom of all the major
revolutions in your history.
We
undoubtedly had a sizeable finger in the Lutheran Rebellion, and it is simply a
fact that we were the prime movers in the bourgeois democratic revolutions of
the century before the last, both in France and America. If we were not, we did
not know our own interests.
But
do you point your accusing finger at us and charge us with these heinous and
recorded crimes?
Not at all!? You fantastically lay at our door the recent Great War and the upheaval in Russia, which have done not only the most injury to the Jews themselves, but which a school-boy could have foreseen would have that result.
Not at all!? You fantastically lay at our door the recent Great War and the upheaval in Russia, which have done not only the most injury to the Jews themselves, but which a school-boy could have foreseen would have that result.
ED Noor: Methinks the rabbi speaks too soon. One hundred years later
Communism has made extensive global progress even if their work in Russia was
curtailed somewhat in the 1990’s. He also simultaneously denies yet admits Jewish involvement in WW1 which resulted in the Balfour Declaration.
But
even these plots and revolutions are as nothing compared with the great
conspiracy which we engineered at the beginning of this era and which was
destined to make the creed of a Jewish sect the religion of the Western world.
The
Reformation was not designed in malice purely. It squared us with an ancient
enemy and restored our Bible to its place of honour in Christendom; the
Republican revolutions of the Eighteenth century freed us of our age-long
political and social disabilities. They benefited us, but they did you no harm.
On the contrary, they prospered and expanded you. You owe your pre-eminence in
the world to them.
But the upheaval which brought Christianity into Europe was ~ or at least may easily be shown to have been ~ planned and executed by Jews as an act of revenge against a great Gentile state.
And
when you talk about Jewish conspiracies I cannot for the world understand why
you do not mention the destruction of Rome and the whole civilization of
antiquity concentrated under her banners, at the hands of Jewish Christianity.
It is unbelievable,but you Christiansdo not seem to know whereyour religion came from,or how,nor why.Your historians,with one great exception,do not tell you.
The
documents in these cases, which are part of your Bible, you chant over but do
not read.
We have done our work too thoroughly;you believe our propaganda too implicitly.
The
coming of Christianity is to you not an ordinary historical event growing out
of other events of the time; it is the fulfillment of a divine Jewish prophecy ~
with suitable amendments of your own.
ED Noor: Below, such hubris!
It did not, as you see it, destroy a great Gentile civilization and a great Gentile empire with which Jewry was at war; it did not plunge mankind into barbarism and darkness for a thousand years; it came to bring salvation to the Gentile world!
ED Noor: Below, such hubris!
It did not, as you see it, destroy a great Gentile civilization and a great Gentile empire with which Jewry was at war; it did not plunge mankind into barbarism and darkness for a thousand years; it came to bring salvation to the Gentile world!
Yet here, if ever, was a great subversive movement, hatched in Palestine, spread by Jewish agitators, financed by Jewish money, taught in Jewish pamphlets and broadsides, at a time when Jewry and Rome were in a death struggle, and ending in the collapse of the great Gentile empire.
You
do not even see it, though an intelligent child, unfuddled by theological
magic, could tell you what it is all about after a hasty reading of the simple
record. And then you go on prattling of Jewish conspiracies and cite as
instances the Great War and the Russian Revolution!
Can
you wonder that we Jews have always taken your anti-Semites rather lightly, as
long as they did not resort to violence?
And
mind you, no less an authority than Gibbon long ago tried to enlighten you. It
is now a century and a half since The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
let the cat out of the bag; Gibbon, not being a person dabbling in history, did
not try to account for the end of a great era by inventing fatuous nonsense
about the vice and degradation of Rome, about the decay of morals and faith in
an empire which was at that very time in the midst of its most glorious
creative period.
How
could he? He was living in the Augustan (ED Noor:
Victorian) Age in London which ~ in spite of nearly two thousand years since
the coming of Christian salvation ~ was as good a replica of Augustan Rome in
the matter of refined lewdness as the foggy islanders could make it.
No,
Gibbons was a race-conscious Gentile and an admirer of the culture of the pagan
west, as well as an historian with brains and eyes. Therefore he had no
difficulty laying his finger on the malady that had rotted and wasted away the
noble edifice of antique civilization.
He put Christianity down ~the law which went forth from Zionand the word of God from Jerusalem ~as the central causeof the decline and fall of Romeand all she represented.
So
far so good. But Gibbon did not go far enough. He was born and died, you see, a
century before the invention of scientific anti-Semitism.
He left wholly out of account the element of deliberation. He saw an alien creed sweeping out of the East and overwhelming the fair lands of the West. It never occurred to him that the whole scheme of salvation was dedicated. Yet the facts are as plain as you please.
Let
me in very brief recount the tale, unembroidered by miracle, prophecy or magic.
For
a good perspective, I shall have to go back a space. The action conveniently
falls into four parts, rising to a climax in the third. The time, when the
first curtain rises, is roughly 65 B.C. Dramatis personae are, minor parts
aside, Judea and Rome. Judea is a tiny kingdom off the Eastern Mediterranean.
For five centuries it has been hardly more than a geographical expression.
Again and again it has been overrun and destroyed and its population carried
into exile or slavery by its powerful neighbours.
Nominally independent, it is
now as unstable as ever and on the edge of civil war. The empire of the West,
with her nucleus in the City Republic of Rome, while not yet mistress of the world,
is speedily heading that way. She is acknowledged the one great military power
of the time as well as the heir of Greece and the centre of civilization.
Up
to the present the two states have had little or no contact with one another.
Then, without solicitation on her part, Rome was suddenly asked take a hand in
Judean affairs. A dispute had arisen between two brothers over the succession
to the petty throne, and the Roman general Pompey, who happened to be in
Damascus winding up bigger matters, was called upon to arbitrate between the
claimants. With the simple directness of a republican soldier, Pompey exiled
one of the brothers, tossed the chief priesthood to his rival, and abolished
the kingly dignity altogether. Not to put too fine a point on it, Pompey's
mediation amounted in effect to making Judea a Roman dependency.
The
Jews, not unnaturally, objected; and Rome, to conciliate them and to conform to
local prejudice, restored the royal office. Rome appointed, that is, a king of
her own choosing. He was the son of an excise-man, an Idumean by race, named
Herod. But the Jews were not placated, and continued making trouble. Rome
thought it very ungrateful of them.
All
this is merely a prelude, and is introduced into the action to make clear what
follows. Jewish discontent grew to disaffection and open revolt when their
Gentile masters began importing into Jerusalem the blessings of Western
culture.
Graven
images, athletic games, Greek drama, and gladiatorial shows were not to the
Jewish taste. The pious resented them as an offence in the nostrils of Jehovah,
even though the resident officials patiently explained they were meant for the
entertainment and edification of the non-Jewish garrison. The Judeans resisted ~
with especial strenuousness ~ the advent of the efficient Roman tax-gatherer.
Above all, they wanted back a king of their own royal line.
Among
the masses the rebellion took the form of a revival of the old belief in a
Messiah, a divinely appointed saviour who was to redeem his people from the
foreign yoke and make Judea supreme among the nations.
Claimants
to the mission were not wanting. In Galilee, one Judas
led a rather formidable insurrection, which enlisted much popular support. John, called the Baptist, operated in the Jordan
country. He was followed by another north-country man, Jesus
of Nazareth. All three were masters of the technique of couching
incendiary political sedition in harmless theological phrases. All three used
the same signal of revolt ~ "the time is at hand". And three were
speedily apprehended and executed, both Galileans by crucifixion.
Personal qualities aside, Jesus of Nazareth was, like his predecessors, a political agitator engaged in liberating his country from the foreign oppressor. There is even considerable evidence that he entertained an ambition to become king of an independent Judea.
He
claimed, or his biographers later claimed for him, descent from the ancient
royal line of David. But his paternity is somewhat confused. The same writers
who traced the origin of his mother's husband back to the psalmist-king also
pictured Jesus as the son of Jehovah, and admitted that Joseph was not his
father.
ED Noor: By now we are all aware of the position held by modern Jewry towards Jesus Christ and His Mother according to their Talmud. The good rabbi fails to mention this.
ED Noor: By now we are all aware of the position held by modern Jewry towards Jesus Christ and His Mother according to their Talmud. The good rabbi fails to mention this.
It
seems, however, that Jesus before long realized the hopelessness of his
political mission and turned his oratorical gifts and his great popularity with
masses in quite another direction. He began preaching a primitive form of
populism, socialism and pacificism. The effect of this change in his program
was to gain him the hostility of the substantial, propertied classes, the priest
and patriots generally, and to reduce his following to the poor, labouring mass
and the slaves.
After
his death these lowly disciples formed themselves into a communistic
brotherhood. A sermon their late leader had once delivered upon a hillside
summed up for them the essence of his teachings, and they made it their rule of
life.
It was a philosophy calculated to appeal profoundly to humble people.It comforted those who suffered here on earth with promised rewards beyond the grave.It made virtues of necessities of the weak.Men without hope in the future were admonished to take no thought for the morrow.Men too helpless to resent insult or injury were taught to resist not evil.Men condemned to lifelong drudgery and indigence were assured of the dignity of labour and of poverty.The meek, the despised, the disinherited, the downtrodden, were ~ in the hereafter ~ to be the elect and favoured of God.The worldly, the ambitious, the rich and powerful, were to be denied admission to heaven.
The
upshot, then, of Jesus' mission was a new sect in Judea. It was neither the
first nor the last. Judea, like modern America, was a fertile soil for strange
creeds. The Ebionim ~ the paupers, as they called themselves ~ did not regard
their beliefs as a new religion. Jews they had been born, and Jews they
remained. The teachings of their master were rather in nature of a social
philosophy, an ethic of conduct, a way of life.
To
modern Christians, who never tire of asking why the Jews did not accept Jesus
and his teachings, I can only answer that for a long time none but the Jews
did. To be surprised that the whole Jewish people did not turn Ebionim is about
as intelligent as to expect all Americans to join the Unitarians or the
Baptists or the Christian Scientists.
In
ordinary times little attention would have been paid to the ragged brotherhood.
Slaves and labourers for the most part, their meekness might even have been
encouraged by the soldier class. But with the country in the midst of a
struggle with a foreign foe, the unworldly philosophy took on a dangerous
aspect. It was a creed of disillusion, resignation and defeat. It threatened to
undermine the morale of the nation's fighting men in time of war. This blessing
of the peacemakers, this turning of the other cheek, this non-resistance, this
love your enemy, looked like a deliberate attempt to paralyse the national will
in a crisis and assure victory to the foe.
So
it is not surprising that the Jewish authorities began persecuting the Ebionim.
Their meetings were invaded and dispersed, their leaders were clapped into
jail, and their doctrines were proscribed. It looked for awhile as if the sect
would be speedily wiped out. Then, unexpected, the curtain rose on act three,
and events took a sudden new turn.
Perhaps
the bitterest foe of the sectaries was one Saul, a maker of tents. A native of
Tarsus and thus a man of some education in Greek culture, he despised the new
teachings for their unworldliness and their remoteness from life. A patriotic
Jew, he dreaded their effect on the national cause. A traveled man, versed in
several languages, he was ideally suited for the task of going about among the
scattered Jewish communities to counteract the spread of their socialistic
pacifistic doctrines. The leaders in Jerusalem appointed him chief persecutor
to the Ebionim.
He
was on his way to Damascus one day to arrest a group of the sectaries when a
novel idea came to him. In the quaint phrase of the book of Acts he saw a
vision. He saw as a matter of fact, two. He perceived, to begin with, how
utterly hopeless were the chances of little Judea winning out in an armed
conflict against the greatest military power in the world. Second, and more
important, it came to him that the vagabond creed which he had been repressing
might be forged into an irresistible weapon against the formidable foe.
Pacifism, non-resistance, resignation, love, were dangerous teachings at home.
Spread among the enemy's legions, they might break down their discipline and
thus yet bring victory to Jerusalem.
Saul, in a word,was probably the first manto see the possibilitiesof conducting war by propaganda.
He
journeyed on to Damascus, and there, to the amazement alike of his friends and
of those he had gone to suppress, he announced his conversion to the faith and
applied for admission to the brotherhood.
On
his return to Jerusalem he laid his new strategy before the startled Elders of
Zion. After much debate and searching of souls, it was adopted. More resistance
was offered by the leaders Ebionim of the capital. They were mistrustful of his
motives, and they feared that his proposal to strip the faith of its ancient
Jewish observances and practices so as to make it acceptable to Gentiles would
fill the fraternity with alien half-converts, and dilute its strength. But in
the end he won them over, too.
And so Saul, the fiercest persecutor of Jesus' followers, became Paul, the Apostle to the Gentiles. And so, incidentally, began the spread into pagan lands of the West, an entirely new Oriental religion.
Unfortunately
for Paul's plan, the new strategy worked much too well. His revamped and rather
alluring theology made converts faster than he had dared hope, or than he even
wished.
His
idea, it should be kept in mind, was at this stage purely defensive. He had as
yet no thought of evangelizing the world; he only hoped to discourage the
enemy. With that accomplished, and the Roman garrisons out of Palestine, he was
prepared to call a truce. But the slaves and oppressed of the Empire, the
wretched conscripts, and the starving proletariat of the capital itself, found
as much solace in the adapted Pauline version of the creed as the poor Jews
before them had found in the original teachings of their crucified master.
The
result of this unforeseen success was to open the enemy's eyes to what was
going on. Disturbing reports of insubordination among the troops began pouring
into Rome from the army chiefs in Palestine and elsewhere. Instead of giving
the imperial authorities pause, the new tactics only stiffened their
determination. Rome swooped down upon Jerusalem with fire and sword, and after
a fierce siege which lasted four years; she destroyed the nest of the agitation
(70 A.D.). At least she thought she had destroyed it.
The
historians of the time leave us in no doubt as to the aims of Rome. They tell
us that Nero sent Vespasian and his son Titus with definite and explicit orders
to annihilate Palestine and Christianity together. To the Romans, Christianity
meant nothing more than Judaism militant, anyhow, an interpretation which does
not seem far from the facts. As to Nero's wish, he had at least half of it
realized for him. Palestine was so thoroughly annihilated that it has remained
a political ruin to this day. But Christianity was not so easily destroyed.
Indeed,
it was only after the fall of Jerusalem that Paul's program developed to the
full. Hitherto, as I have said, his tactic had merely to frighten the
conqueror, in the manner of Moses plaguing the Pharaohs. He had gone along
cautious and hesitantly, taking care not to arouse the powerful foe. He was
willing to dangle his novel weapon before the foe's nose, and let him feel its
edge, but he shrank from thrusting it in full force.
Now
that the worst had happened and Judea had nothing further to lose, he flung
scruples to the wind and carried the war into the enemy's country. The goal now
was nothing less than to humble Rome as she had humbled Jerusalem, to wipe her
off the map as she had wiped out Judea.
If
Paul's own writings fail to convince you of this interpretation of his
activities, I invite your attention to his more candid associate John. Where
Paul, operating within the shadow of the imperial palace and half the time a
prisoner in Roman jails, is obliged to deal in parable and veiled hints, John,
addressing himself to disaffected Asiatics, can afford the luxury of plain
speaking. At any rate, his pamphlet entitled "Revelation" is, in
truth, a revelation of what the whole astonishing business is about.
Rome,
fancifully called Babylon, is minutely described in the language of sputtering
hate, as the mother of harlots and abominations of the earth, as the woman
drunken with the blood of the saints (Christians and Jews), as the oppressor of
"peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues" and ~ to remove all
doubt of her identity ~ as "that great city which reigned over the Kings
of the earth".
An
Angel triumphantly cries, Babylon the great is fallen" Then follows an
orgiastic picture of ruin. Commerce and industry and maritime trade are at an
end. Art and music and "the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride"
are silenced. The gentle Christian conquerors wallow in blood up to the bridles
of their horses. "Rejoice over her, thou heaven, and ye holy apostles and
prophets; for God hath avenged you on her."
And
what is the end and purpose of all this chaos and devastation? John is not too
reticent to tell us. For he closes his pious prophecy with a vision of the
glories of the new ~ that is, the restored ~ Jerusalem: not any allegorical
fantasy, I pray you, but literally Jerusalem, the capital of a great reunited
kingdom of "the twelve tribes of the children of Israel".
Could
anyone ask for anything plainer?
Of
course, no civilization could forever hold out against this kind of assault. By
the year 200 the efforts of Paul and John and their successors had made such
headway among all classes of Roman society that Christianity had become the
dominant cult throughout the empire.
Meantime,
as Paul had shrewdly foreseen, Roman morale and discipline had quite broken
down, so that more and more the imperial legions, once the terror of the world
and the backbone of Western culture, went down to defeat before barbarian
invaders.
In
the year 326 the Emperor Constantine, hoping to check the insidious malady,
submitted to conversion and proclaimed Christianity the official religion. It
was too late. After him the Emperor Julian tried to resort once more to suppression.
But neither resistance nor concession were of any use. The Roman body politic
has become thoroughly worm-eaten with Palestinian propaganda. Paul had
triumphed.
This
at least is how, were I an anti-Semite in search of a credible sample of
subversive Jewish conspiracy, I would interpret the event of a modified Jewish
creed into the Western world.
Noor, this is a fine example of Jewish self-importance. All the good rabbi is saying is, "What extraordinary beings we Jews are! We are so much more intelligent than the goyim! Why, all history is our doing! The dumb goyim haven't got a clue!" etc. etc. The best way to deal with this sort of stuff is to pay no attention.
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