DEAD NAVY SEALS CONSPIRACY

 

Sources tell AP those killed in downed Chinook not part of bin Laden raid

Aangirfan

August 7, 2011

On 6 August 2011, a helicopter crashed on a NATO mission in Afghanistan, killing all 38 personnel on board.

The dead included approximately 22 SEALs from the SEAL Team Six, the unit whose members carried out the operation that allegedly killed Osama Bin Laden, "however none of those killed participated in the operation itself."

The Taliban claims it shot down the helicopter containing the SEALS.

The US government admits that a helicopter crashed during the so-called Osama bin Laden raid, but says no one died.

Infowars is on record as reporting that members of Seal Team 6 died in the so called Osama raid.

Infowars predicted that the spin doctors would later stage a crash and say the SEALs died in the staged crash.

No need to stage a crash.

http://canspeccy.blogspot.com/ explains (US Navy SEALs: Two Helicopters) as follows:

"Helicopters go down all the time in Afghanistan. Four Chinooks, and several other types this year already.

"So it would have been simple enough to conceal losses in Pakistan - just add the names to the list of those killed in the latest crash, and return some well charred bodies for burial...

"Who knows, but had the US lost a dozen men in a helicopter crash while infringing Pakistan's sovereignty in a mission having only propaganda value, it would surely have limited the Obama Presidency to a single term,

just as the botched Tehran hostages mission, which resulted in the loss of two aircraft and the deaths of eight American servicemen, ended Jimmy Carter's hopes of a second Presidential term."

Did Pakistan forces attack a CIA safe house in Abbottabad?

Was there a fight between US and Pakistan forces?

Did US navy seals die at Abbottabad?

The evidence is confusing. 

Bashir

Mohammad Bashir lives in front of the house in Abbottabad, where Osama bin Laden allegedly lived.

According to a Pakistan news report (Veterans Today):

Mohammad Bashir was on his rooftop when a helicopter arrived over 'Osama's house'.

Men landed from the helicopter.

These men spoke Pashtun (a Pakistani language)

After about 20 minutes, they loaded several people into the helicopter.

More helicopters arrived from different directions but did not land.

The first helicopter exploded above the compound.

There were then dead bodies all over the compound.

Police and soldiers arrived to clear up the bodies. 

The compound

Why did the helicopter explode?

Were there two opposing military factions in the air? 

There is increasing evidence that it was Pakistan forces who 'attacked' the compound in Abbottabad, alleged to be hiding Osama bin Laden.

"Abbotabad is near ... an SSG (Pakistan special forces) base...

"A senior ISI offical told NBC it was Pakistani special force who conducted the operation."

(World's Armed Forces Forum: Senior ISI official confirms ...)

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2 May 2011

ABBOTTABAD: Three loud blasts were heard near the Pakistan Military Academy (PMA) Kakul Road late Sunday night and a military helicopter also crashed.

Sources told Geo News that heavy firing was heard in the area before the chopper crashed.

Windowpanes of the nearby buildings and houses were smashed due to the intensity of the blasts, the sources said.

Eyewitnesses said first sound of heavy firing was heard and then there was a huge blast.

Fire erupted at the scene of the occurrence and according to latest reports police and fire brigade teams were rushing towards the blast scene.

Security forces cordoned off the entire area and military helicopters were also hovering over the area."

(http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=5697&Cat=13&dt=5/2/2011)

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aangirfan: ABOUT ABBOTTABAD

aangirfan: PAKISTAN ARRESTS 'CIA ASSETS' NEAR ABBOTTABAD

aangirfan: CIA SAFE HOUSE IN ABBOTTABAD?

SEAL UNIT SUPPOSEDLY RESPONSIBLE FOR OSAMA HIT KILLED IN COPTER CRASH

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com

Soon after it was announced ~ without evidence ~ that Navy SEALs had killed Osama bin Laden, the corporate media derisively coined a new term for skeptics ~ “deathers,” a word with about as much originality as “birthers” and “truthers.”

CNN said the “deathers” have replaced the “birthers” as the new conspiracy lunatics. It specifically singled out Alex Jones, who said the Osama assassination was a hoax. “My friends, this is a complete and total hoax,” Alex said, and then asked: “Where is the body?”

The corporate media said his body was deep-sixed at sea. Few if any corporate media “journalists” (script-readers) pointed out that this explanation was a totally absurd cover story. 

Few dared examine why the story changed several times.

Cindy Sheehan had a sharp retort to those who believe whatever the government ~ caught lying countless times ~ and its corporate media propaganda wing tell them.

“I am sorry, but if you believe the newest death of OBL, you’re stupid,” she said. “Just think to yourself ~ they paraded Saddam’s dead sons around to prove they were dead ~ why do you suppose they hastily buried this version of OBL at sea? This lying, murderous Empire can only exist with your brainwashed consent ~ just put your flags away and THINK!”

Many liberals along with dim-witted neocon lickspittles bought into the story without blinking an eye. Democrat warmongers working for the globalist George Soros at Think Progress ~ a propaganda spigot for pro-war establishment Democrats at the Center for American Progress ~ immediately seized upon skepticism of the fairy tale as evidence that “conservatives” who have questioned the official account are crazed conspiracy theorists (in much the same way political dissidents were considered insane by the Soviet state).

Soros’ minions singled out Andrew Breitbart and Emily Miller, a senior editor at the Washington Times, who made the unpardonable error of asking for evidence instead of accepting the fanciful story on blind faith (as both establishment Democrats and Republicans invariably do when the government offers some cockamamie “official” version of history).

Soros’ TP bloggeristas speculate that deatherism will soon replace birtherism because, after all, the birth certificate issue was settled with the latest forged document.

Recent developments will now likely make it more difficult to prove the Osama assassination is a fictional account in a long line of fictional accounts issued in the forever war against manufactured terror.

“Insurgents shot down a U.S. military helicopter during fighting in eastern Afghanistan, killing at least 30 Americans, most of them belonging to the same elite unit as the Navy SEALs who killed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden,” the Associated Press reports today.

It is said none of the personnel killed in the crash were part of the team that supposedly killed Osama, who actually died in late 2001. Is it possible this is because the SEALs involved in the raid died in a crash near the house in Abboottabad’s Bilal Town where residents insist Osama did not live?

The AP reports that the Taliban took down the helicopter in Afghanistan that killed 22 SEALs. It is said to be the largest loss of life in the history of SEAL Team Six, officially called the Navy Special Warfare Development Group, or DEVGRU.

Since we know virtually nothing about what happens in Afghanistan ~ independent journalists were targeted long ago in Iraq by the Pentagon (most notably at the Sheraton and Palestine hotels in Baghdad in 2005) and their survival rate is abysmally low in all “theaters” of U.S. military operation ~ we cannot be certain who took out the helicopter in Afghanistan. Our information arrives straight from the Ministry of Truth in the Pentagon.

Is it possible the Pentagon took out the helicopter to send a message to the SEALs, just in case some of them decide (like Pat Tillman did) to tell the truth?

This theory is as plausible as the current story, especially considering the lies and deception we were fed about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan (and Vietnam and Korea before that).

Minus un-”embedded” journalists (professional corporate media script readers) we will probably never know for sure.

We do know, however, that the Taliban were created by the CIA and Pakistan’s ISI with seed money from the Saudis.

We also know that you and I ~ taxpayers ~ continue to fund the Taliban so the globalists can continue their phony war, establish bases, and run their narco business.

OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD: ANGRY PAKISTAN DROPS INTELLIGENCE SHARING WITH WEST

Is the following article truth or fantasy? It seems to me that truth is, as ever, a casualty as the drums of war beat louder, building up one alleged set of lies after another, to brand Pakistan as being yet the latest of Israel's....  er, America's enemies. 

Israel does not like the fact that Pakistan has nuclear arms and is not ready to bow down. I still maintain Osama has been dead for almost a decade and the following is twisted Israeli hasbara pushed by the Zionist dominated media. Pakistan was very much one of the goals of conquest according to the PNAC aims to dominate the world. Nothing has changed. 

Pakistan’s intelligence services are refusing to share details of suspects or plots with their American counterparts in protest at the US operation to kill Osama bin Laden, raising the potential threat of attacks on Western cities.

Telegraph.co.uk

In the past, Pakistani agents have been credited with helping identify targets for drone strikes and providing data to the CIA on plans being hatched in its lawless tribal areas.

Now buffeted and embarrassed by being kept in the dark for months as the US closed in on the al-Qaeda leader’s bolthole, little more than 30 miles from the Pakistani capital Islamabad, agents with the Inter-Services Intelligence directorate have begun to withhold crucial operational details about militants on its territory.

At the same time, new details have emerged about bin Laden’s extensive support network inside Pakistan, reaching all the way to the sprawling port city of Karachi.

The revelations will heap more pressure on to an administration already accused of helping shelter the world’s most wanted man.

The Sunday Telegraph has learned that the ISI, which prides itself on arresting a series of key terrorists including the 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, has now broken off relations with the Central Intelligence Agency.

“They are furious. They handed over telephone intercepts in 2009 that were crucial in leading to bin Laden’s courier ~ the key breakthrough in the hunt,” said a source briefed on relations between the two countries.

“Then four months ago they were told there was nothing in it, it was what the Americans called a ‘cold lead’. Since then they have been left out completely out of the loop.”

Senior officials in the US have briefed journalists to say they stopped sharing information because they feared Islamist sympathisers within Pakistani security forces would tip-off bin Laden – ruining the best lead they had ever had.

Lieutenant General Talat Masood, a military analyst, said the stand-off would raise the threat to American cities and to Nato-led troops from plots hatched in Pakistan’s tribal regions, headquarters of al-Qaeda linked militant groups.

“There are implications for both the US and international forces in Afghanistan, so the Americans will be very interested in getting the relationship back on track,” he said.

However, politicians in Pakistan are intent on making the US pay for an apparently unauthorised raid on its soil.

The past fortnight has been deeply embarrassing for Pakistan’s previously admired military and intelligence apparatus.

The generals face tough questions over how the US was able to launch a raid on its territory without anyone noticing.

They must also explain how the world’s most wanted man could live for at least five years right under their noses, less than a mile from the country’s officer training academy in Abbottabad.

Last week, President Barack Obama said bin Laden had a “support network” within Pakistan and demanded to know whether government officials or military officers knew of his presence.

US suspicions of collusion have frozen relations between the two countries, which were already frosty following the arrest of CIA agent in Lahore earlier this year after he shot dead two men.

On Friday night, with intelligence officials already suspending intelligence sharing, Pakistan’s parliament also called for a review of the country’s relationship with the US.

During a 10-hour joint session held to debate the American raid, MPs demanded an independent investigation to replace a planned military inquiry.

And they also unanimously passed a resolution urging a ban on Nato transit convoys taking supplies from the port of Karachi to Afghanistan unless the US ends its controversial programme drone attacks.

Politicians who stayed late into the night said the head of the ISI admitted intelligence failures and said he was prepared to resign if he no longer had their support, an offer refused by the head of Army.

However, documents recently released by WikiLeaks will only deepen their embarrassment. Testimony from prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay describes elements of bin Laden’s support network deep inside Pakistan, tasked with helping the fugitive evade justice, and also describe a meeting between the Taliban’s one-eyed leader Mullah Omar and ISI agents.

Shortly before 9/11, bin Laden began his preparations to elude US reprisals and begin his life on the run.

Mohammed Ahmad Rabbani, “who had the full trust and confidence of al-Qaeda leadership” according to leaked detainee files, told interrogators that he ran a series of al-Qaeda safe houses in Karachi, the economic heart of Pakistan. About two months before airliners crashed into the World Trade Centre, he was ordered to procure supplies and construction materials in Karachi and send them to Afghanistan.

There they were used to extend an existing network of caves and tunnels at Tora Bora deep into the mountains that separate Afghanistan from Pakistan.

Bin Laden and his lieutenants disappeared into the caves in December 2001 ~ the last known sighting before Navy Seals (ALLEGEDLY) shot him dead two weeks ago ~ as US warplanes bombed the area.

Other detainees said bin Laden had lived there with three wives, 25 bodyguards and dozens more al-Qaeda operatives including his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri.

The documents also show further evidence of how ISI operatives liaised with and senior Taliban figures. In one example, Pakistani intelligence officers met Mullah Omar, the one-eyed head of the Afghan Taliban, along with other militia commanders in Quetta, south-western Pakistan.

EXPERT: BIN LADEN’S DNA RESULTS ARE INCONSISTENT

EXPERT: BIN LADEN’S DNA RESULTS ARE INCONSISTENT

May 12, 2011

Fort Worth Business Press

By Elizabeth Sehon

ED: Note to ANYONE who entertains the idea that events leading up to the burial at sea of bin Laden’s body are based on true facts, you need help! Any writer or media source that backs up these illusionary claims is worthy of moral scrutiny and should be branded as hasbara.

Fort Worth DNA expert says that no results from DNA samples from Osama bin Laden’s body after he was killed in a U.S. raid on his hideout in Pakistan have been disclosed by U.S. government officials and that any media reports about the DNA are inaccurate.

Bruce Budowle is a local DNA expert and professor in the University of North Texas Health Health Science Center’s Department of Forensic and Investigative Genetics, and executive director of the Institute of Investigative Genetics.

Budowle made a splash last week when he was quoted in national media as an expert in DNA – and he said bin Laden’s DNA case has not been reported well.

“Given what I’ve seen so far, there have been some inconsistencies in what’s been presented, and the reason for that is unknown at this time,” he said last week during an interview with the Business Press.

Budowle, who worked for the FBI in its forensic science laboratory for 26 years and assisted in identifying victims of the 9/11 attacks, said the media have only speculated about DNA evidence, but no accurate information has been presented.

“It could be because someone made a mistake in the beginning, or someone’s not telling stuff or the media misinterpreted, but it’s all speculation at this point,” Budowle said.

The DNA test results that were reported also were inconsistent values, he said.

“We’ve heard that it’s from his sister in Boston, that’s one explanation, and someone else said he only has a half sister and not a full sister, yet they had a 99.99 percent certainty. That alone says there was something done to the calculations,” he said.

But if officials did need bin Laden’s DNA to confirm that it was his body the U.S. team brought out of Pakistan, they could get it quickly, Budowle said.

“In crime labs it can take a lot longer of a time frame, but in theory, if you just had one single mission, and you’re making a comparison, it can probably be done in a few hours,” he said.

DNA testing can increase the chances of accurately identifying an individual by using a large number of genetic markers, such as from blood or a cheek swab.

“If you have a sample from the individual from years before and it is a direct comparison, you can have a very, very high probability, like 99.9 percent. However, if you are comparing indirectly and do not have a sample from the individual but comparing to a relative, you’re only getting partial information, so the power is reduced unless you have a lot of relatives,” Budowle said.

The more family members one has to compare to an individual’s DNA, the better the result for identification.

Many speculate if officials do have a direct sample of DNA from bin Laden, or if they have an indirect sample of DNA from a family member to compare the results.

“That’s where the problem comes in. Right now, anything is just speculation or at best misunderstood,” he said.

Budowle said he did not know what officials used to compare DNA results for bin Laden, but speculated that they used the standard routine genetic markers first, which are used in most crime labs.

Bin Laden’s DNA test results also depend on what family member was used.

“I think there’s a lot of confusion so far on what has been conveyed,” he said.

According to administration officials, facial recognition software was also used to help identify bin Laden’s body.

“They both can be very accurate, but given the pool of candidates, it may be one is better in one situation than another,” Budowle said.

Accuracy and probability are two large factors when comparing DNA results.

“Probability is not accuracy, because something can be very accurate but the result may not give you a high probability for certainty for identity,” he said.

If officials do have bin Laden’s DNA, then it probably would be used for further studies, possibly to see whether it shows up in any other evidence, such as explosive devices or in other terrorists attacks.

“My guess is that you would be unlikely see his [DNA] because it didn’t look like he was active himself.

He seemed to use others to do the work, so the chances of his DNA leading us to other cases may be remote,” Budowle said.

 Dr. Bruce Budowle