Tuesday, 4 May 2010


‘...man brought in destructive forces to be used by people that were rulers. These destructive forces combined with those natural resources of the gases, of the electrical forces made in nature, caused volcanic eruptions...we find in various portions of the world, even in the present day, some form of legend of these events referring to an ‘Eden’ of the world.’ (363-4) ~ Edgar Cayce
Thanks to Dublin Mick for passing me this post. What I read it last night left me to suffer a restless night only to awaken three hours later, unable to sleep, alert and on the edge. I have remembered something from far back in the past and I am very troubled. Very troubled indeed. I cannot shake the mood.

All of my life I have considered Atlantis to have been a very real place. Instinctively, I have been aware that much of what has happened in the last few centuries have been repetitions but with our current technology. I will not go into detail, this following piece would never get posted, however, Atlantis blew twice.

‘...These periods when there was the application of much that is being discovered or rediscovered today, in application of power to modes of transit...’ (2562-1; 5/9/41) ~ Edgar Cayce
As always, these earth-shaking events were the result of actions by the malfeasant, power-hungry unheeding soulless individuals who are among us again. With Atlantis, both earth-shaking disasters were the result of meddling with planetary balance as they kept drilling deeper into her.

The first was upheaval was pretty bad, erasing at least one entire continent and most of its inhabitants. For a few thousand years, the will of the surviving people prevailed and the scientific ones laid low. However their quest for domination over the other side of the globe led them to even deeper drilling and the planet responded once again.

This time Atlantis went under and we today hear "myths" in our religious tomes and from many native peoples of the great flood that resulted in so many changes.

I have always felt that fire would take us out when the hour arrived. I remember somewhere that each time the civilization (What a lie that term is in today's climate) was destroyed it would be by a different element. The recent spate of death dealing weapons used to fry or holocaust victims such as in Gaza, were mere portents of what is to come, I felt.

Oil floats and kills all beneath it. The thought of all that oil set alight is a true nightmare. of Biblical proportions. And what caused it? Once again, man's greed and need for dominance which requires fossil fuels to maintain his hideous desires. Once again, Earth has responded to his drilling. And once again, humanity faces a horror like no other.

Our beautiful planet has been sullied beyond repair with this horrid event and will never be the same. NEVER. Never is a very long long time.

We have suffered these greedy bastards long enough! I, for one, am angrier than I have been in a long time for their goddam meddling. As for my rambling about Atlantis, they know EXACTLY what I am talking about. They were there and these same souls are at it again. There are no words foul enough in my vocabulary for them, no words to express my loathing of these creatures.

Now here is the article Dublin Mick sent me.


Imagine a pipe 5 feet wide spewing crude oil like a fire hose from what could be the planets' largest, high-pressure oil and gas reserve.

With the best technology available to man, the Deepwater Horizon rig popped a hole into that reserve and was overwhelmed.

If this isn't contained, it could poison all the oceans of the world.
"Well, if you say the fire hose has a 70,000 psi pump on the other end, yes! No comparison here. The volume out rises geometrically with pressure. Its a squares function. Two times the pressure is 4 times the push. The Alaska pipeline is 4 feet in diameter and pushes with a lot less pressure. This situation in the Gulf of Mexico is stunning dangerous." ~ Paul Noel (May 2, 2010)
Last night we received the following text in an email, author not identified. I passed it by Paul Noel, who is an expert in the field. His response follows thereafter. In calculating the gallons required to kill the oceans, remember that oil goes to the surface, where life is concentrated.

The Oil Mess

The original estimate was about 5,000 gallons of oil a day spilling into the ocean. Now they're saying 200,000 gallons a day. That's over a million gallons of crude oil a week!

I'm engineer with 25 years of experience. I've worked on some big projects with big machines. Maybe that's why this mess is so clear to me.

First, the BP platform was drilling for what they call deep oil. They go out where the ocean is about 5,000 feet deep and drill another 30,000 feet into the crust of the earth. This is right on the edge of what human technology can do.

Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink.

Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.

When the rig sank it flipped over and landed on top of the drill hole some 5,000 feet under the ocean.

Now they've got a hole in the ocean floor, 5,000 feet down with a wrecked oil drilling rig sitting on top of it spewing 200,000 [gallons] of oil a day into the ocean. Take a moment and consider that, will you!

First they have to get the oil rig off the hole to get at it in order to try to cap it. Do you know the level of effort it will take to move that wrecked oil rig, sitting under 5,000 feet of water? That operation alone would take years and hundreds of millions to accomplish. Then, how do you cap that hole in the muddy ocean floor?

There just is no way.

No way.

The only piece of human technology that might address this is a nuclear bomb. I'm not kidding. If they put a nuke down there in the right spot it might seal up the hole. Nothing short of that will work. [See Paul Noel's ideas above.]

If we can't cap that hole,
that oil is going to destroy
the oceans of the world.
It only takes one quart of motor oil
to make 250,000 gallons
of ocean water toxic to wildlife.
Are you starting to get the magnitude of this?

We're so used to our politicians creating false crises to forward their criminal agendas that we aren't recognizing that we're staring straight into possibly the greatest disaster mankind will ever see.

Imagine what happens if that oil keeps flowing until it destroys all life in the oceans of this planet. Who knows how big of a reservoir of oil is down there.

Not to mention that the oceans are critical to maintaining the proper oxygen level in the atmosphere for human life.

We're humped.
Unless God steps in and fixes this.
No human can.
You can be sure of that.

Response by Paul Noel
for Pure Energy Systems News
I really do think that the situation is getting further and further out of hand.

By yesterday morning, the nature of the crude had changed, indicating that the spill was collapsing the rock structures. How much I cannot say. If it is collapsing the rock structures, the least that can be said is that the rock is fragmenting and blowing up the tube with the oil.

With that going on you have a high pressure abrasive sand blaster working on the kinks in the pipe eroding it causing the very real risk of increasing the leaks.

More than that is the very real risk of causing the casing to become unstable and literally blowing it up the well bringing the hole to totally open condition.

Another risk arises because, according to reports, the crew was cementing the exterior of the casing when this happens.

As a result, the well, if this was not properly completed, could begin to blow outside the casing.

Another possible scenario is a sea floor collapse.

If that happens ~ Katie bar the door.

Possible Fix

I do not see any good possibilities from humans further fracturing the rock particularly at higher levels. That is the cap rock that is holding the deposit together.

I do see a possible use of explosives for favorable outcome. If a properly sized charge were applied in a shaped fashion around the drill pipe at some distance from it ~ say 5 feet or so ~ it is entirely possible that an explosive charge could pinch the pipe off similar to a hydraulic clamp.

The resulting situation would vastly reduce the spill. Once you clamped off the pipe much more substantially say down to 1 foot or less opening the resulting pipe could be charge cut above the location and a tapered pipe fitted to it to collect any leaking oil.

The end result would be to contain the spill and dramatically control any leaks because drill mud could then be entered into the pipe fitted to the exterior. In the end, the pipe could be controlled that way. The size of a charge to do this would be a few pounds not megatons.

A nuclear detonation carries the real risk of giving us the full doomsday scenario on this well.

I just don't like doing that.

There is no coming back from the brink when you do that one.

If it works, which I see as unlikely, great.

If it doesn't work, there is now a maybe a hole 1/4 mile across leaking oil.

That looks worse than any possible outcomes otherwise.

Oil Deposit Capacity

The BP people are not talking, but this well is into a deposit that easily could top 500,000 barrels production per day for 10 or 15 years. Letting that all go in one blast seems more than foolish.

The deposit is one I have known about since 1988. The deposit is very big. The central pressure in the deposit is 165 to 170 thousand PSI. It contains so much hydrocarbon that you simply cannot imagine it. In published reports, BP estimated a blow out could reach near 200,000 Barrels per day (165,000) They may have estimated a flow rate on a 5 foot pipe. The deposit is well able to surpass this.

The oil industry has knowledge of the deposit ~ more than they admit. The deposit is 100 miles off shore. They are drilling into the edge of the deposit to leak it down gently to be able to produce from the deposit.

The deposit is so large that, while I have never heard exact numbers, it was described to me to be either the largest or the second largest oil deposit ever found. It is mostly a natural gas deposit. That is another reason not to blast too willynilly there. The natural gas that could be released is really way beyond the oil in quantity. It is like 10,000 times the oil in the deposit.

It is this deposit that has me reminding people of what the Shell geologist told me about the deposit. This was the quote, "Energy shortage..., Hell! We are afraid of running out of air to burn."

The deposit is very large. It covers an area off shore something like 25,000 square miles. Natural Gas and Oil is leaking out of the deposit as far inland as Central Alabama and way over into Florida and even over to Louisiana almost as far as Texas. This is a really massive deposit. Punching holes in the deposit is a really scary event as we are now seeing.

Rig and Pipe Info

The pipe is a fairly rigid pipe and sticks up out of the Blow out prevention device for some distance before it bends over and kinks off. The distance is not long but is enough to do what I suggested. Explosive forming of metals is a standard technology and under water it is easier. The charge focuses very predictably.

Imagine a long straw that is 1 mile long and has kinked over in several locations. This is about what you have. I have seen the submarine photos from early on. Just a really big straw. It has about a 1.5 or 2 foot diameter drill pipe in the center with about a 10 inch hole down the center. I am not exactly sure on the drill pipe size. The casing here is very thick steel. It has to handle massive pressures.

The rig is quite some distance away from the well. It may be a 1/4 mile or more away. It sort of bent over and then kinked the pipe as it went down.

Deepwater Horizon Rig in calmer days.
"It's burning pretty good and there's no estimate on when the fire will be put out,"Coast Guard Senior Chief Petty Officer Mike O'Berry during rescue mission.

I guess the size here sort of bends the imagination. This rig has a deck area of about 3 to 4 acres. It had a crew quarters on board that had about 120 people in it. (Imagine a big hotel here.) The hotel on the rig was about 4 stories high.

You just cannot imagine until you see these rigs how big they are. If you want to see one go to Mobile Bay. Gulf High Island 2 and other rigs in the area can be seen clearly for 90 miles from Pensacola Florida. The towers go up 1100 feet. You can take the ferry right between two rigs if you go from Fort Morgan to Dauphin Island. There is no comparison to these rig anywhere in the world. They are the biggest ever built bar none.

Controls That Should Have Been In Place

By the way, I am not against drilling it, I am just against doing so without proper controls.

The rig that was drilling was not a US Flagged rig. That means US Inspectors were not allowed on board the rig to inspect it. As a matter of National Security under the GATT the USA has a right to demand US Only in various technology. The USA should never allow a foreign flag vessel to drill for oil in the US Economic Zone (200 mile limit).

Acoustic automated shut of devices should be required.

I think US Federal Inspectors should have to be resident on and inspecting rigs like this 24/7.

I think that the drilling should be required to do some smaller holes that deliberately miss the main deposit that test the structure before main drilling operations happen.

Careful procedures should be in place to set up wells before they hit the main deposit. The well casing should have to be inserted well before the drill hits the deposit and it should have to be cemented in at least 2 weeks prior to finishing the hole down to the oil or gas. This is to give the cement time to set. The casing should have ridging to make this cement have a tight wedged grip on the miles of rock around it. This is required because the lift pressure on a pipe in this case could easily reach 20 million pounds of lift. This is an insane amount of up pressure. Even at 70,000 psi it would lift about 140 million pounds. (almost 64,000 long tons!)


I suspect that the series of disasters we have seen in mines around the world and in the USA regards coal and oil are the product of pushing the crews and developments too fast due to the high economic pressures.

This happened the last time (Sago and others) when the economic pressure started rising.
The economic pressures on the energy prices are stunning. Everyone is trying to keep their economy going. You can measure the economic output of a nation directly with the energy consumption day to day.

The USA dropped its energy consumption in the current downturn (depression) by about 24%. It is now rising again. We are about 19% down and rising.

The current situation is that the developments in oil/gas and coal are not keeping pace with what is going to be the demand shortly. They cannot even hope to meet the demand.

This is why I said that Alternative Energy is the only hope.

They can push the pedal to the metal (figuratively speaking) and there is not going to be a speed up much.

Since human demand is going to force increases in supply towards 3 times the current level in less than 30 years, we are looking at a big hole with no hope of fixing it.

Air pollution world wide is reaching levels that are at the limits of the environment to take the demands. This increase in energy has to come from somewhere else.

Nuclear power doesn't have the potential. It turns out to run out of fuel in about 30 years. Worse yet solving the problem with nuclear doesn't do anything but boil away scarce fresh water supplies. All combustion does this.

The only solutions are ones where the energy comes from somewhere else.

Solar and Wind are good options.

As you are also aware, the hard core alternatives are there in magnetic power etc. This has to come.

The alternatives to drilling US Waters for oil if we solve this with oil are to depend more and more on hostile powers for oil.

Funding your enemies is insane.

Drilling in US waters risks ever increasing threats of what we have going on right now.

The collapse of rock structures is even more scary.

Mexico has one entire state that is being held up by nitrogen injection wells that would sink if that gas is released. This is not funny stuff. I know I get punched by the "know nothings" out there with political agenda, but I will risk it.

If you will note the Oil and Gas people pretty much don't say anything against me. They know.

I have been to some of their events and they actually like what I have to say. They cannot say it for fear of their jobs.

If one estimates the cost of a barrel of oil from the Middle East, the US Armed Forces cost added in would drive it to about $2000/barrel.

If people paid this at the pump they would be demanding what I say with force so high you couldn't hear anything else. If you factor in the cost of spills and such domestic oil probably costs $500/barrel or more.

This is just insane.


Paul Noel, 52, works as Software Engineer (as Contractor) for the US Army at Redstone Arsenal, Alabama. He has a vast experience base including education across a wide area of technical skills and sciences. He supplies technical expertise in all areas required for new products development associated with the US Army office he works in. He supplies extensive expertise in understanding the Oil and Gas industry as well.
Born in Lynnwood Washington, he came to Huntsville Alabama, when his father moved to be part of NASA’s effort to put men on the moon. Neal Armstrong may have gotten the ride, but his father’s computers did the driving.

Paul is also a founding member of the New Energy Congress.

Previous Coverage

  • Oil > Ecological Impact >
    Deepwater Horizon debacle pushes alt energy - In addition to devastating ecological despoiling, the oil slick could shut down Mississippi River transport, effecting nearly half of U.S. import/export commerce. The damage to the tourism industry in Alabama and Florida could top $25 Billion a year for several years. Faced with this disaster the Obama Administration has just stopped all off shore drilling. (PESN; May 1, 2010)

What They're Doing (Follow-up)

Al Jazeera looks at what engineers are facing in trying to stem the flow of oil. (YouTube; May 01, 2010)
  • Picture becoming clearer on BP Deepwater Horizon incident - BP said on Sunday that the GSF Development Driller II will drill a second relief well on the Mississippi Canyon 252 block. GSF Development Driller III spudded the first relief well on May 2. Discoverer Enterprise, also on location will work on containment. Oil flows from the end of the riser, the end of the drill pipe and a crack in the riser. BP sheared off the drill pipe and will install a valve in the next one or two days. This will stop one of the three leaks. (Gerson Lehrman Group; May 3, 2010)
  • BP spuds relief well - BP said it spud the first of two planned relief wells to intervene in the Macondo exploration well that is leaking an estimated 5000 barrels per day into the US Gulf. The effort is expected to take at between two and three months, Suttles confirmed. (Upstream Online; May 3, 2010)
  • Deepwater.com/.../Development-Driller-III...

Additional Links

  • Deepwater Horizon.pdf - brief history and photos of fire.
  • http://www.state.nj.us/dep/watershedmgt/waterbook_chp10.htm - Motor Oil: "One part per million (1ppm) can make water unsafe to drink; 35 ppm can produce a visible oil slick that damages aquatic life, including fish and shellfish; and 50 ppm can foul a wastewater treatment plant."
  • Leaked report: Government fears Deepwater Horizon well could become unchecked gusher 30 Apr 2010 'The following is not public' document ~ A confidential government report on the unfolding spill disaster in the Gulf makes clear the Coast Guard now fears the well could become an unchecked gusher shooting millions of gallons of oil per day into the Gulf.
    "The following is not public," reads the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Emergency Response document dated April 28. "Two additional release points were found today in the tangled riser. If the riser pipe deteriorates further, the flow could become unchecked resulting in a release volume an order of magnitude higher than previously thought."


Other forums that have picked up this story include:

Contain the Upsurge: Free Oil

On May 3, 2010; 9:45 am, Raphial Morgado phoned and said:
It's going to take a long time to cap this at the source.
Don't worry about that now.
We need to figure out a way to turn a bad thing into good by harvesting the crude oil on the surface where it bubbles up.
We should focus all our efforts on containing it there.
Don't think of it as a clean up effort, think of it as a collecting effort.
Bring all the tankers needed to pump it up.
We can't allow this oil to float out into the wider sea.
Invite all willing parties to come and pump it up: "free oil".
* * * *

Scriptures of Interest

Revelation 8:9
A third of the living creatures in the sea died...
Ezekiel 32:14
Then will I make their waters deep, and cause their rivers to run like oil, saith the Lord GOD.

Actina Rig Blowout

On May 2, 2010, DaddyBare wrote: This isn't the first time we lost a rig working under those kids of pressures Offshore blowout involving Actinia semi-submersible oil rig, off Vietnam in February 1993. Compilation of footage from various helicopters, planes...

(YouTube; August 09, 2007)

See also

  • PESN (Pure Energy Systems News) | contributors ~ Feature stories on cutting-edge, clean energy technology.

  • Free Energy News (.com) - Daily cutting-edge, clean energy technology news from around the world

  • PESWiki Latest - Newest feature pages in the publicly-editable energy directory.

  • Free Energy Now (.net) - 1-hour, in-depth, live interview, each Monday, 9:00 - 10:00 pm Arizona time (same as Mountain from Nov. 2 - March).

  • This Week in Free Energy™ - Ten-minute recap each Sunday, 7:50 - 8:00 pm Mountain.

    More to come on this horror.


    1. There are no 5 foot diameter holes down 30,000 feet underneath the sea with 70,000 psi velocity of efflux flows. It is absurd. Oil tubes are measured in inches - not feet. All the numbers are wrong. I am a retired Facilities (Petrochem-Power) Designer-Engineer with On Shore and Off Shore experience and with geologists. This Paul Noel fellow is full of baloney. Think about this - whatever the Israelis are planning to do to Palestine is being covered up by Ahmedinejad's visit to NYC and the fake car bomb the FBI Cointellpro or whichever alphabet soup du jour planted. BTW, that so-called car bomb was as NOT real as the numbers quoted by Paul the Baloney-meister Noelinski. For one thing among many others, the undersea crust of the earth is only 5,000 feet thick MAXIMUM. (There is a 32,000 feet oil hole in Oklahoma, but it is on the continental shelf where the crust is 50,000 feet thick - not 5,000 maximum. That one in Oklahoma is very well behaved by the way.) There is no way anyone has drilled 25,000 feet into molten magma (hot liquid lava) - it is a total impossibility. There wouldn't be any oil there anyway. Oil and magma = oil burned up. Hello - THIMK?! BTW another point the so-called car bomb was not composed of anything that would have done what they claim - ever - at all, period. Shoe and lap bomber time again. Everyone get wise to this. if anyone disrupted the rig - I will bet it is the U.S. Gummint. In any case it will be gone and that will be the end of it.

      When all is said and done, I will bet that false-Catholic propagandists are part of the plot to lie about these things to give Benediktos the Child Molester Pope cover to claim a false miracle. It isn't going to work.

    2. Responding to Steve's comment on the "Mother of All Gushers" article we posted at PESN and which you referred to... We didn't say that the hole presently was 5' in diameter, we said it wouldn't take much to get to that point from the abraision caused by the outrushing oil/sand/grit. As for drilling depths, here is a link directly from Deepwater's website showing the Development Driller III's capabilities which is being deployed to the site to drill a relief hole (which will take around 3 months): http://www.deepwater.com/fw/main/Development-Driller-III-424C17.html?LayoutID=17

      Operating water depth 7,500 ft. (2,286 m) upgradeable to 10,000 ft.

      Drilling depth 35,000 ft. upgradeable to 37,500 ft. (11,430 m)

    3. I don't think you are very familiar with dynamics of the gulf or the oil industry Steve. No offense.

      What caused the explosion was ignorance and greed. The pocket drilled into rests some 6 miles beneath the earth. It is one of the largest pockets ever known and BP was aware that it stretched from central Florida through Louisiana, Texas and up to central Alabama. The pressure at the well point blew everything out. Head moron Tony Hayward of BP best exemplifies this when he asked how could this happen.

      Try and grasp this: The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it."

      So much for William Buckley and Adam Smith when it comes to oil drilling. Perhaps a little more government insight and common sense might have been appropriate here. There won't be any wealth of nations for those around the gulf area now when they end up with no income sleeping under bridges.

      "Well, this time they hit a pocket of oil at such high pressure that it burst all of their safety valves all the way up to the drilling rig and then caused the rig to explode and sink. Take a moment to grasp the import of that. The pressure behind this oil is so high that it destroyed the maximum effort of human science to contain it.

      "The BP people are not talking, but this well is into a deposit that easily could top 500,000 barrels production per day for 10 or 15 years. Letting that all go in one blast seems more than foolish.

      The deposit is one I have known about since 1988. The deposit is very big. The central pressure in the deposit is 165 to 170 thousand PSI. It contains so much hydrocarbon that you simply cannot imagine it. "

      The rig that was drilling was not a US Flagged rig. That means US Inspectors were not allowed on board the rig to inspect it. As a matter of National Security under the GATT the USA has a right to demand US Only in various technology. The USA should never allow a foreign flag vessel to drill for oil in the US Economic Zone (200 mile limit). Mr. conservative free market man Cheney drpped all controls.

    4. Part II

      The collapse of rock structures is even more scary. Mexico has one entire state that is being held up by nitrogen injection wells that would sink if that gas is released. This is not funny stuff. I know I get punched by the "know nothings" out there with political agenda, but I will risk it. If you will note the Oil and Gas people pretty much don't say anything against me. They know. I have been to some of their events and they actually like what I have to say. They cannot say it for fear of their jobs.

      Deepwater Horizon debacle pushes alt energy - In addition to devastating ecological despoiling, the oil slick could shut down Mississippi River transport, effecting nearly half of U.S. import/export commerce. The damage to the tourism industry in Alabama and Florida could top $25 Billion a year for several years. Faced with this disaster the Obama Administration has just stopped all off shore drilling. (PESN; May 1, 2010)

      Gates of Hell Opened.


      "Things fall apart," William Butler Yeats wrote. "The center cannot hold; mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, the blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere the ceremony of innocence is drowned." He could have been talking about us, about this past week in America, about what happens when madness, greed and fear combine and conspire to show us what it looks like when the gates of Hell crack open.


      Time for adults to rule the world.

      At the same time, however, the majority of citizens, greatly enabled by mainstream media, remain clueless about what is happening around them, or even adversely in their personal lives. Marinated in denial and entitlement, they naively await a "return to normal" and persist in doing more of everything that hasn't worked, isn't working, and never will. So I must ask, how is that humankind, supposedly "the measure of all things" can behave with such recalcitrance and oblivousness to reality?

    5. Part III

      Capitalism: A Children's Story
      The capitalism to which I refer is not that of the small business enterprise which began flourishing in the Middle Ages, but rather corporate capitalism, which is synonymous with the proliferation of the Industrial Revolution and the rise of an elite oligarchy. It is rooted in a world view antithetical to the common good in which certain individuals, by virtue of privilege and a sense of specialness and entitlement, exert influence on neighboring entities and institutions in order to deploy myriad varieties of economic and social control. It is the apotheosis of uninitiated, puerile engagement with the world.

      American Date Rape
      To be uninitiated, psycho-spiritually, is to remain an emotional adolescent in the modern world. Civilization perpetuates the anti-initiation process which fixates human beings on the world of puerile pursuits and guarantees that civilization's mission and values will never be closely examined. Consumerism and fostering the identity of the citizen as consumer, attended by the mandate of positive thinking, delivers the end-product of the eternally adolescent adult who is literally, putty in the hands of the corporate capitalist rapist.

      Hence, the perpetually adolescent citizen in awe of the wealthy, with internally blathering litanies of positive thinking a la Oprah, Suze Orman, or The Secret reverberating in the mind, is fundamentally incapable of discerning the lethal essence of corporate capitalism or penetrating its odious marketing skullduggery. Thus when the rapist slipped the ruffies of "riches in real estate" or "turn your home into an ATM machine" into the middle class American lexicon, the result was collusion: the sharing of a catastrophic illusion that resulted in colossal financial plunder, leaving the adolescent victims battered, burglarized, and bewildered to awaken and discover that they had participated in the largest transfer of wealth in the history of the human race-at their own expense."

    6. None of you amateurs know what you are talking about. I quoted the above article absolutely accurately and showed that it is all wrong and the numbers are bogus. I didn't refer to anything but what is posted above. Trying to change that now with other numbers etc. is nonsense and stands out as utterly dishonest on your part. Young mick, you are the one who doesn't understand any of it. As for the other one (Sterlingda May 5, 2010 6:12 AM), you are a liar.

    7. You seem a tad strident my man. Let's make it real simple. That is an enormous oil pocket. There is enough oil there to deaden the oceans if it is not stopped.

      An oceanographer from the University of South Florida has already announced the spill is into the gulf loop and will hit the Carolinas in about two weeks. The is spill is already the size of Puerto Rico. That is the way it stands right now.

      By the way I am 65 years old. Probably old enough to be your daddy.

    8. Steve I am stunned by your reaction to open discussion. If the BP “experts” are making the numbers up as they go along how can you be so definite. Is the science settled? I seemed to have heard that before. You’ll be telling me next that you believe in global warming!

      “Oil and magma = oil burned up. Hello - THINK?!”

      Combustion requires 3 elements;
      Heat > Yep
      Fuel > Yep
      Oxygen > Ooops!

      I don’t like to hawk my own scribbling but please read this and especially the scientific papers noted at the end.


      Oil and gas are a natural part of the carbon cycle. It is the usual charade of shysters that want us to buy the peak oil bullshit.

      We are all capable of following the New York Fizzler, the murderous behaviour of IsraHell and the Catholic Church. In the long term this is more important. Noor hit some really important notes in this article. Patronising others merely limits debate.

      In my humble opinion

      v word = liessin (??)

    9. I will lay it out for you in a nutshell.




      Now we elaborate:

      Robert Weisberg , an oceanographer at the University of South Florida, says the bulk of the spill is now only 30 miles north of the Loop current and estimates that the oil spill will hit North Caroline in as little as two weeks.

      Surface ocean current forecast for 8pm EDT Tuesday, May 4 from the NOAA’s RTOFS model run made at 8 pm EDT on Wednesday, April 28, 2010. Note that on Tuesday, northwest winds are expected to create surface currents of about 1 m/s (roughly 2 mph) from the site of the spill towards the southeast. It is possible that these currents will be strong enough to transport oil far enough south that it will enter the Loop Current, which would then transport the oil into northwest Cuba, the Florida Keys, and South Florida.
      This is truly a global catastrophe. Just consider the thermal image below of the Gulf Stream, whose path the Gulf Oil Spill will follow once hitting the Gulf Stream.

      On CNN today they said they have a way to close the well but BP won’t do it because they would lose the well permanently. Well who cares? Just drill a new one. Our politicians need to stand up and take action.

    10. Part II

      The Red Sky Prophecy


      A number of people can predict the future, but few get the timing correct. "Grandfather" was an Apache wise man and scout, named Stalking Wolf, who grew up outside white man's influence. His many predictions not only came true in the manner he predicted, but also when he predicted.

      Tom Brown, Jr learned extensively from Grandfather for twenty years, from their first meeting when Tom was seven years old. Stalking Wolf was the real-life grandfather of Tom's best friend at the time. The following excerpt from Tom's book, The Quest, tells of Grandfather's predictions for all of mankind.

      Looking back, I can clearly see that Grandfather's prophecies, unlike anything else, had the greatest influence on my life. At the time they had little more effect than to frighten me and cause me to sit up and take notice. It wasn't until after his prophecies began to come true that their haunting impact began to affect me in a very profound way.

      Out of all the personal and major prophecies that Grandfather foretold, there are four that stand out above all the rest. It is these four that mark the destruction of man and life on Earth, as we know it to exist now. Yet Grandfather said that we could still change things, even after the first two prophecies came true, but that there could be no turning back after the third.

      "Studied closely, there is no one bird that makes the decision to turn, but it seems to be a Spirit, a collective consciousness, that runs through the flock instantly. When viewed from afar, the flock appears to be one animal, one organism, one consciousness, governed by the collective force and spirit of all the individuals. It is this same consciousness that runs through man, Nature and the Earth-that which we call the 'Spirit-that-moves-in-all-things', or the 'life force'.

    11. Part IV

      The child spoke again. "There is only hope during the time of the first and second signs. Upon the third sign, the night of the bleeding, there is no longer hope, for only the children of the Earth will survive. Man will be given these warnings; if unheeded, there can be no hope, for only the children of the Earth will purge themselves of the cancers of mankind, of mankind's destructive thinking. It will be the children of the Earth who will bring a new hope to the new society, living closer to the Earth and Spirit."

      Then all was silent, the landscape cleared and returned to normal, and Grandfather stepped from the Vision. Shaken, he said that he had wandered for the next season, trying to understand all that had been given to him, trying to understand why he had been chosen.

      And the 2nd angel poured out it's bowl and the seas of the earth turned to blood.

    12. Part III

      The First Sign

      The world he was in was like nothing he had ever known. It was a dry place with little vegetation.

      The First Sign

      The Second Sign

      The world he was in was like nothing he had ever known. It was a dry place with little vegetation.

      The spirit looked at Grandfather for a long moment, then finally spoke. "Holes in the sky."

      The Third Sign

      It was at the end of the fourth day that the third Vision came to him. As he gazed out onto the landscape towards the setting Sun, the sky suddenly turned to a liquid and then turned blood-red. As far as his eyes could see, the sky was solid red, with no variation in shadow, texture or light. The whole of Creation seemed to have grown still, as if awaiting some unseen command. Time, place and destiny seemed to be in limbo, stilled by the bleeding sky. He gazed for a long time at the sky, in a state of awe and terror, for the red colour of the sky was like nothing he had ever seen in any sunset or sunrise. The colour was that of man, not of Nature, and it had a vile stench and texture. It seemed to burn the Earth wherever it touched. As sunset drifted to night, the stars shone bright red, the colour never leaving the sky, and everywhere the cries of fear and pain were heard.

      There was another period of silence until finally the child spoke again. "There will be a great famine throughout the world, like man cannot imagine. Waters will run vile, the poisons of man's sins running strong in the waters of the soils, lakes and rivers. Crops will fail, the animals of man will die, and disease will kill the masses. The grandchildren will feed upon the remains of the dead, and all about will be the cries of pain and anguish. Roving bands of men will hunt and kill other men for food, and water will always be scarce, getting scarcer with each passing year. The land, the water, the sky will all be poisoned, and man will live in the wrath of the Creator. Man will hide at first in the cities, but there he will die. A few will run to the wilderness, but the wilderness will destroy them, for they had long ago been given a choice. Man will be destroyed, his cities in ruin, and it is then that the grandchildren will pay for the sins of their grandfathers and grandmothers."

    13. 200,000 Gallons per day is 138 GPM. 200,000 ÷ 24 hours a day = 8,333 Gallons per Hour. 8,333 ÷ 60 minutes per hour = 138 Gallons per Minute - GPM. The 3/4" garden hose you have delivers 23 GPM out of your house Hose Bib. You know the one that takes a day and a half to fill up your pool? 138 ÷ 23 = 6 garden hoses. Noor, these goddamn liars want you and everyone to believe that a flow of oil equivalent to six garden hoses flowing, will destroy the world's oceans. That is total lying garbage. It is another environmental scare - like global warming. The real danger will be the solution they suggest, just like global warming.

    14. Well Steve I am not willing to begin calling anyone Goddamn liars over a disagreement. I wish there was some possibility you could be right and I am wrong. However common sense and sat photos suggest very little possibility of that.

      A spill the size of Florida in a little over two weeks suggests an extremely high release of oil. If is not somehow stopped immediately it will be up the coast in no time.

      At any rate it won't take long to have an answer on this one.

    15. Pressure at 5000 feet is enough to crush a submarine.
      Drilling another well is 3 months away and trying to pump goo into the area to block up the first one. This is not an ordinary well it is a big one.

      Now drilling the next well is something that will have to be done in oil blackened waters at 5000 feet with combustible gas on the surface. The gas deposits here are enormous. Hurricane season is approaching.

      If the giant cap works you still have to have tankers refilling from it forever almost. How do they fill up during hurricane season? What about this whole mess looks easy?

      Plans to drill off the Virginia coast have been suspended. There will be plenty of oil coming their way soon .

    16. Your garden hose analogy holds a lot of water Steve (grin). If you look at this from an alternative perspective then the inference would be that the figures for the leaking oil are grossly underestimated. The image of the leak only being a 6-hose worth of flow nails it.

      To put it another way when you point a garden hose in the air how high does it go? Picture the image of the old oil rigs hitting oil and you get the image. A lot more pressure coming out of a larger pipe. Whether the hole in the ocean floor is 5 inches wide or 5 feet would really make all the difference.

      I offer no solution Steve. It’s too early to tell if this was an accident or sabotage – and I don’t mean the North Koreans. Didn’t I hear somewhere that Goldman Sucks made a killing on a bet placed only the day before it happened? I am only looking forward to this catastrophe ending.

    17. Noor
      It seems your reaction was a lot like mine. I have long followed Edgar Cayce. In fact when I was very young someone handed me one of his books and so it began.

      My understanding of Atlantis is the giant pyramid complexes found on the earth were united along ley lines to form a giant energy grid. Using this electro magnetic energy to even power vehicles. Too much energy was ratcheted up and it was also used for war and destructive endeavors.

      It caused the tectonic plates to shift and entire continents were sunk including Atlantis which lies in the Atlantic ocean. Sat photos show those pyramids are still down there in what is called the Bermuda triangle. There is some speculation the crystal caps are what cause ships to lose their bearings in this area and speculation that sea farers are even transported to alternate dimensions.

      Cayce predicts they will rise from the ocean during the next pole shift. Edgar Cayce was like many prophets, never recognized in his own house. He along with Tecumseh, Sitting Bull and others were given pretty short shrift here in the Americas.

    18. Recent estimates from Nola.com estimate and I stress the word "estimate" there are about 100,000.000 barrels of oil in that deposit. I suspect the tables in Vegas would bet on much higher quantities.

      At any rate leaking 1000 barrels a day the well would leak for 273 years if not capped. Of course there would be no oxygen on the planet long before this.

      Experts now admit the well is leaking 210,000 barrels a day which squares up initially with what many were saying when BP tried to claim 5000 barrels a day. Not surprising as the initial reaction in this day and time is lie until the truth filters out.

    19. Mick, that prophecy is indeed awful and as apocalyptic as they get. It truly gives me shivers because of its hopelessness.

      What bothers me is these things are all in the early stages. It would be hard but things could be turned around slowly and with great care, but there are those who do not want this.

      It leaves me speechless to know some SEEK this, actively promote it. Don't they see they, too, will suffer? Their underground caverns will not be sufficient for this. You have heard about the Senators who spoke out about this have you not?

      If I recall correctly, it was part of the bankers' threat of martial law if they did not get the bailout. Every Congressman and/or Senator was given a private briefing on how to save themselves but not to breathe a word. A few did because the evilness and selfishness disgusted them.

      I do not want to live in that world. There is wording somewhere that says, it is end times when women no longer want to give birth to suckle their babies. I was at that stage many years ago but biology won and had a few. I have absolutely no desire to have grandchildren. None at all. You just strengthened my resolve to support my daughters.

      As for all this discussion about the spill. All I can say is, it is a horrible thing. But it is also a major diversion. How many gallons or whatever is gushing out of those holes is really only relevant if one is tasked with dealing with the problem.

      What matters is who did it, how it happened, how it never happens again. What will be done to the perpetrators. It would be a pleasure to see Cheney swing for this one but BP just posted their earings for this quarter and they were off the charts.
      .All the rest for us common folks is unnecessary.

      Greece is the spark for some very serious problems that will most likely explode in Europe and effect all of the planet.

      Apparently the Chinese proverb "May you live in interesting times" was originally a cuss to be given one's enemies. So our times are interesting indeed.

    20. Noor
      The existence on earth is a finite one. The earth will go on long after the present inhabitants have used her as a motel room and garbage can and heal herself.

      The earth also is a spirit, a very big one and I sense a very angry one at present. Man has proven well that he is incapable of allowing adults to rule.

      Edgar Cayce also predicted that he would come back and bring the mummies back to life for a big party that all would enjoy. Should this be the case I think he is referring to the spiritual world or after life.

      May I have the first dance?

    21. This a typical oil drilling operation. Nothing special. 12,000 feet is when they start talking about out of the ordinary. They have now reduced the numbers to 185,000 gallons a day. That is down to 128 GPM. That isn't going to change because someone's alarmist nonsense wants it to be more. The size of the oil tube isn't going to change because someone's false conclusion dictates that it must be larger. This isn't any kind of global catastrophe. The last thing decent people need is for a false excuse like this to be used to nail the last of the U.S. Constitution to the wall and give FEMA control over everyone's life. They would really like to do that. There is nothing to this. Technically speaking, this is not a discussion amongst equals. I am the only one here who technically understands this. Any claim that this is a massive catastrophe, by anyone claiming technical knowledge, is a goddamn lie.

      Look to the sturm und drang police state motivation of Obama and company for the real dangers.

      Look to whatever the IsraHellis are planning to do to Palestine or Obama is planning do to Afghanistan or India is planning to do to Pakistan for what the very real motivations are for distracting everyone with this kind of groundless paranoia.

      The mainstream media is the one who is at major fault here for hyping this.

      Another thing, I worked on Clean Fuels in one of the largest refineries in the U.S in the 1990's. We made it a showpiece for non-polluting oil based technology. I have also worked on Nuclear Fusion (which does NOT use fissionable material - however fission reactors do, unfortunately). I will take Clean Fuels oil based technology over depleted Uranium ANY DAY.

    22. Noor
      It doesn't look to good. the dome failed. Now they are saying the water was at such depth massive amouts of methane crystals had built up on the bottom and formed chunks which stopped up the tube. It is apparently what blew up the tower to begin with.

      I don't know how they can bomb the hole now with methane there. The estimates are that if this keep sup however the gulf of Mexico will be full of oil by October.

      Oil pics.


      There are protests now around New Orleans with people demanding BP stop the leak. It is a sad child like innocence that many have, technology can just step in and fix things when oil companies were playing with fire and in over their heads to begin with.

      This looks very bad.

    23. Only a damn ZykelNazi trying to disrupt the United States would try to suggest using a bomb on the Oil tube. Any claim that it is getting really bad and "oh no it is terrible and it is going to do awful things right now etc." is just rank rabble rousing and anyone doing all of that is utterly irresponsible. Any claim that this could possibly affect the whole Gulf, much less the whole world's Oceans is a total goddamned lie. Faked representation of weather photographs is as low down despicable as it gets.

    24. http://www.naturalnews.com/028749_Gulf_of_Mexico_oil_spill.html

      Give it up Steve even the deaf are beginning to hear.

      According to a leaked National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration memo obtained by an Alabama newspaper, if the riser erodes any further and creates more leaks, up to 50,000 barrels, or 2.1 million gallons, per day of crude oil could begin flooding Gulf waters every day.

      BP which obviously has every incentive to downplay the true environmental destruction that could be caused by this oil spill.

      pressure, it's spewing a huge volume of oil directly into the ocean, and there so far seems to be no human-engineered way of stopping it (short of setting off an underground nuclear bomb near the well site).

      Others suggest that the oil deposit was just too large and under too much pressure for the equipment to handle it. (Be careful where you poke around the planet if you can't handle what comes out, right?)

      there could be worldwide catastrophic consequences.

      Earth, because this one oil rig blowout could set in motion a global extinction wave that begins with the oceans and then whiplashes back onto human beings themselves.

      In the future, we may in fact talk about life on Earth as "pre-spill" versus "post-spill." Because a post-spill world may be drowned in oil, devoid of much ocean life, and suffering a global extinction event that will crash the human population by 90 percent or more.

    25. Steve when everyone else seems out of kilter but you, time to re-examine your position.


      However, oceanographers are now saying the Gulf oil spill could get into the Gulf Loop Current within 24 hours, eventually carrying oil south along the Florida coast and into the Florida Keys. Once the oil enters the Loop Current, it likely will end up in the Keys and continue east into the Gulf Stream,

      President Obama visited the Gulf Coast Sunday to personally observe the results of the oil spill as administration officials defended their response to what could be the nation's worst offshore spill in at least 21 years or perhaps in its entire history.

    26. All of this garbage is like the Zionist-Communist swill the Jew Bolsheviks are always using to spread their lies through garbage like Pravda. Little boys with smart mouths pretending to be big grown up people will quote this garbage as is it means anything. It does not.

      Obama is a Commie who takes his instructions from Putin's Boss (Jew Kahal Communist version of Capo di tutti capi) Mikhael Gorbachev. All of them are liars.

    27. Next is the "OH NO a leaked source!" showing the world is about to end. (Produced by the same folks that show you pictures of flying saucers in Mississippi trailer parks). This whole thing would be laughable except it will be used to fleece the American Public out of money. The favorite pastime of Jews in Florida and throughout the U.S. and American Politicians in ZOG-USA. This is all an example of lying baloney on the part of juvenile minds and the attempt to further dumb down the American gentile public into goy-infantilized dependency on Talmudic dispensation of Noahide so called "justice," for a price of course. Note the extreme Noahide propaganda here of lowly gentiles must treat the environment well or be punished by super Jews (like Gorbachev the Zio-Communist super Jew environmentalist and their agents like Baruch "skullcap at the 'wailing wall'" Obama) and who in their opinion are human and gentiles are less than human. This is the real source of all environmentalist scares.

    28. You are kind of a one trick pony Steve. Some people can't seem to realize fire is hot and ice is cold until they touch it. Sounds like you need to go for a dip in the gulf.

      These hysterical rants are not conducive to a discussion. Character attacks against others you do not even know is not very adult. You do seem to have trouble staying on topic.

    29. A Canadian's view


      The Ultimate Meaning Of The BP Gulf Blow Out
      By Joseph E Fasciani

      "Here in Victoria, BC, Canada I follow the Gulf Oil Louisiana Blow-out [GLOB] on our CBC, waiting for the lies to stop and the truth to start, as it must, in spite of The Powers That Be [TPTB] who want it all to go away. But it won't, not now, and not ever. The USSA, just as did the USSR, is about to be undone. But not by an enemy outside the gates: No, this is self-destruction at its highest and best.

      The magnitude of this disaster is inevitably revealed to our human world. And the ultimate truth is that we alone created our destiny, and will continue so for a very long time, even one as fatal as this one.

      In spite of all the inane assurances uttered by TPTB --as if giving voice to this immense wounding of the Creation could somehow heal the fatalities so profitably inflicted on an entire planet!-- the ultimate truth is that we alone made this insanity.

      The fact is we're now face to face with the Three Laws of Thermodynamics [TLT] in a special sense. Firstly, we've met a force of Nature [i.e., the Creation], so much greater than us that it is no more possible for us to control it as for us to control any one of the TLT. I see this oily venting going on as long as it takes to come to equilibrium in its depths, and there's nothing that mere humans can do. Real life isn't a Hollywood sci-fi movie where we always triumph.

      This is analogous to the massive meteor that induced the world-wide weather shift that hastened the age of the dinosaurs."

      Reads more

    30. Mick, one last comment regarding your request for a dance.

      There is only one who supersedes all others should we have the good fortune to reincarnate together again. But it is very tricky trying to arrange simultaneous incarnations!

      Otherwise, the waltz is yours.

      I was just going to add ... when they say, we save the planet for our children, our children's children, etc. I wonder how many have come to understand, WE are very likely our children's children!

      Not too many carry the concept of reincarnation forward, but you can only dig around in the past for so long without getting badly burned, so, to the future!

      So many of us are here now at this time to relive what went before when the earth finally heaved our nasty ways into destruction. Since then we have picked up a lot of clutter but now we enter a new age, through horrid to come birth and death throes. To pass through, we have come about at this time also, to tie of a lot of loose ends, clean up the clutter, to be all the more honed and clear for this new world to come. But it will not come for awhile longer, a lot of work to do yet.

    31. I wonder if you came accross the following links:

      JB Campbell is having other thoughts: http://www.johnkaminski.info/pages/oil_news/oil_news_22_june_2010.htm

      He also suggests another and a few more links: http://shtf411.com/bp-illusion-of-a-false-spill-t7065.html


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    In Russia there comes the hope of the world, not as that sometimes termed of the communistic, or Bolshevik, no; but freedom,freedom! That each man will live for his fellow man! The principle has been born. It will take years for it to be crystallized, but out of Russia comes again the hope of the world. ~ Edgar Cayce, 1944, No. 3976-29

    These pro-Israel people like pledges: they tried to force me to sign a pledge of loyalty to Israel. When I refused, it was trench warfare, hand to hand combat every day I was in the Congress, and the U.S. people never knew that I was fighting to remain independent for them. To make real peace and to find real justice. Here, they have the whole of the U.S. government making pledges to them!!! Unbelievable. ~ Cynthia McKinney, PhD

    “The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart’s blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs or ceremonies we observe ~ whether we are Orthodox, Conservative, Reform or merely spasmodic sentimentalists ~ we follow the Talmud. It is our common law.” ~ Herman Wouk


    “Those who are incapable of attaining to supreme religious values include the black colored people and those who resemble them in their climates. Their nature is like the mute animals. Their level among existing things is below that of a man and above that of a monkey.” ~ Maimonides


    “All of the anxious sighing, longing and hoping of their hearts is directed to the time when some day they would like to deal with us heathen as they dealt with the heathen in Persia at the time of Esther”. ~ Martin Luther



    "If [Jews] are as wise as they claim to be, they will labour to make Jews American, instead of labouring to make America Jewish. The genius of the United States of America is Christian in the broadest sense, and its destiny is to remain Christian. This carries no sectarian meaning with it, but relates to a basic principle which differs from other principles in that it provides for liberty with morality, and pledges society to a code of relations based on fundamental Christian conceptions of human rights and duties." ~ Henry Ford


    “It doesn’t even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.” ~ Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Chapter 11


    The real God of the Universe does not have “Chosen” in the first place because he is perfect as we understand and predilection is a human weakness. The Jews invented the OT to fool humanity as always. The real God of the Universe does not send any body to kill, destroy his own creation, to rape, to maim, to create misery and havoc on other people. Don’t you get it? the God in the OT is a monster, is another one of the many Gods in the dessert, those sacrifices offered to God are Satanic as their name and the Jews keep offering sacrifices to their God. Last year they immolated thousands of human beings in Gaza to their God Baal, Moloch, Azazel, Satan, Lucifer. ~Isaas, TUT


    "I had been asked to sign a pledge for Israel when I first became a candidate for Congress and after refusing to do so my congressional career became trench warfare, hand to hand combat just to remain in the congress.

    Ever since my refusal to sign that pledge for Israel the pro-Israel lobby let me know that my political net was in the hangman's noose it was the pro-Israel lobby they decided to tighten that noose." ~ Cynthia McKinney


    "Himself a Jew, Marx has around him, in London and France, but especially in Germany, a multitude of more or less clever, scheming, agile, speculating Jews ~ such as Jews are everywhere: commercial or banking agents, writers, politicians, reporters for newspapers of all shades, with one foot in the bank and the other in the socialist movement, and with their arses sitted upon the German daily press ~ they have taken possession of all the newspapers ~ and you can imagine what kind of sickening literature they produce. Now, this entire Jewish world, which glut a single profiteering sect, a nation of blooksuckers, a single gluttonous parasite closely and intimately interlinked not only across national borders, but across all differences of political opinion ~ this Jewish world today stands for the most part at the disposal of Marx and, at the same time, at the disposal of Rothschild.


    This may seem strange. What can there be in common between Communism and the largest banks? Ho-ho! The Communism of Marx seeks an enormous centralization of the state, and where such exists, there must inevitably be a central state bank, and where such a bank exists, the parasitic Jewish nation, which profiteers from the labour of others, will always find a way to prevail. In reality, for the proletariat, this would be a barrack regime, under which the working men and the working women, converted into a uniform mass, would rise, fall asleep, work, and live at the beat of the drum." ~ Bakunin (1814-1876)


    “We entered the synagogue, which was packed with the greatest stinking bunch of humanity I have ever seen. When we got about halfway up, the head rabbi, who was dressed in a fur hat similar to that worn by Henry VIII of England and in a surplice heavily embroidered and very filthy, came down and met the General (Eisenhower)...The smell was so terrible that I almost fainted and actually about three hours later lost my lunch as the result remembering it." ~ General Patton in Germany, diary entry Sept 17, 1945

    The U.S. Congress officially recognized the Noahide Laws in legislation that was passed by both houses. Congress and the President of the U. S., George Bush, indicated in Public Law 102-14, 102nd Congress, that the United States of America was founded upon the Seven Universal Laws of Noah, and that these Laws have been the bedrock of society from the dawn of civilization. They also acknowledged that the Seven Laws of Noah are the foundation upon which civilization stands and that recent weakening of these principles threaten the fabric of civilized society, and that justified preoccupation in educating the Citizens of the U.S. of America and future generations is needed. For this purpose, this Public Law designated March 26, 1991 as Education Day.”

    Marxism, to which all branches of Socialism necessarily adhere, was originated by Jew Karl Marx, himself of rabbinical descent and has been dominated by them from the beginning. Marx did not actually originate anything; he merely “streamlined” Talmudism for Gentile consumption.” ~ Elizabeth Dilling

    Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.” ~ Fr. John Sheehan, S.J.


    The cruel canard ‘anti-Semitic’ does not apply for many reasons, not the least of which is the simple fact that the slanderous word itself is derived from language games for purposes of propaganda and in real world context has no validity. ~ Tom Valentine


    Follow the path of the unsafe, independent thinker.

    Expose your ideas to the dangers of controversy.

    Speak your mind and fear less the label of 'crackpot'

    than the stigma of conformity.

    And on issues that seem important to you,

    Stand up and be counted at any cost.

    ~ Thomas J Watson (1874-1956)


    'There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, in America, as an independent press. You know it and I know it. The business of the Journalist is to destroy truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it and I know it and what folly is this toasting an independent press? We are the tools and vassals for rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.' ~ John Swinton, former Chief of Staff, The New York Times, 1953



    Historically, Jews had always thrived in nations and empires with multicultural, pluralistic and tolerant environments, while they fared badly in strong ethnic or nationalistic societies. European Jews have always been the emblematic stranger or ‘other’. Therefore, by definition, a society where the stranger is welcome is good for the Jews, although they have not always appreciated this link. The future of European Jewry is dependent on our ability to shape a multicultural, pluralistic and diverse society. ~ Göran Rosenberg, Jewish author and journalist


    American Jews are committed to cultural tolerance because of their belief ~ one firmly rooted in history ~ that Jews are safe only in a society acceptant of a wide range of attitudes and behaviors, as well as a diversity of religious and ethnic groups. It is this belief, for example, not approval of homosexuality, that leads an overwhelming majority of U.S. Jews to endorse ‘gay rights’ and to take a liberal stance on most other so-called ‘social’ issues. ~ Charles Silberman, Jewish writer and journalist


    The Jew … Judaizes … he provokes religious indifference, but he also imposes on those whose faith he destroys, his own concept of the world, of morality, and of human life. The Jews detests the spirit of the nation in the midst of which they live. ~ Bernard Lazare


    We will legally define the Talmud as the basis of the Israeli legal system. ~ Benjamin Netanyahu


    "Anti-Communism is Antisemitism." ~ Jewish Voice, July ~ August 1941.


    We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers forever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands. We will forever destroy because we need a world of our own. ~ Maurice Samuels, You Gentiles. 1942.


    According to the Talmud...."...When the serpent came unto Eve, he infused filthy lust in her (but) when Israel stood on Sinai, that lust was eliminated" ~ Talmud, Abodah Zarah 22b


    As monstrous as it may seem, we are engaged in close combat between Israel and the Nations ~ and it can only be genocidal and total because it is about our and their identities. ~ Yitzhak Attia, Israel Magazine, April 2003


    "Some may call it Communism, but I call it what it is: Judaism." ~ Rabbi Stephen Weiss.


    It was hard for Satan alone to mislead the whole world, so he appointed prominent rabbis in different localities. ~ A Chasidic saying attributed to Nahman of Bratzlav, early 19th century


    It is our duty to force all mankind to accept the seven Noahide laws, and if not ~ they will be killed." ~ Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg


    "The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts." ~ Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b

    "The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the the dog more than the non-Jew." ~ Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30

    "Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form." ~ Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855

    Dear World, "I understand that you are upset by us here in Israel. Indeed, it appears you are very upset, even angry. So…it is because we became so upset over upsetting you, dear world, that we decided to leave you ~ and establish a Jewish State.” ~ Rabbi Meir Kahane, 1988


    "A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal." ~ Coschen hamischpat 405

    "The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs." ~ Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b

    "Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human." ~ Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b

    "If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog." ~ Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b

    "If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: "God will replace 'your loss', just as if one of his oxen or asses had died." ~ Jore dea 377, 1


    "Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals." ~ Talmud Sanhedrin 74b


    "It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile." ~ Sepher ikkarim III c 25

    "It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah." ~ Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5

    "A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands." ~ Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b

    "Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God." ~ Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772


    Treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity. The goal of abolishing the white race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists. ~ Noel Ignatiev, Harvard Magazine, Sep-Oct 2002


    We intend to keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as ‘the white race’ is destroyed, not ‘deconstructed’ but destroyed.

    Even if reason tells us, even shouts with all its force the very absurdity of this confrontation between the small and insignificant people of Israel [i.e., all Jewry worldwide, not just “the State of Israel”] and the rest of humanity… as absurd, as incoherent and as monstrous as it may seem, we are engaged in close combat between Israel and the Nations ~ and it can only be genocidal and total because it is about our and their identities. ~ Yitzhak Attia, Israel Magazine, April 2003


    Any trial based on the assumption that Jews and goyim are equal is a total travesty of justice. ~ Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg, June 6, 1989:


    In 1492 CE, Chemor, chief Rabbi of Spain, wrote to the Grand Sanhedrin, which had its seat in Constantinople, for advice, when a Spanish law threatened expulsion (after the fall of Muslim rule in spain).

    This was the reply:

    ” Beloved brethren in Moses, we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great pain to hear it as yourselves. The advice of the Grand Satraps and Rabbis is the following:

    1. As for what you say that the King of Spain obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.
    2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.
    3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries, that they may take away Christians’ lives.
    4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches. [Emphasis mine]
    5. As for the many other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.
    6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.

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    The reply is found in the sixteenth century Spanish book, La Silva Curiosa, by Julio-Iniguez de Medrano (Paris, Orry, 1608), on pages 156 and 157, with the following explanation: “This letter following was found in the archives of Toledo by the Hermit of Salamanca, (while) searching the ancient records of the kingdoms of Spain; and, as it is expressive and remarkable, I wish to write it here.” ~ vide, photostat facing page 80. ~ The above was quoted from Waters Flowing Eastward by Paquita de Shishmareff, pp. 73-74


    “[1] When the Lord your God brings you into the land that you are about to enter and occupy, and he clears away many nations before you ~ the Hittites, the Girgashites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations mightier and more numerous than you ~ [2] and when the Lord your God gives them over to you and you defeat them, then you must utterly destroy them. Make no covenant with them and show them no mercy” (Deut 7:1-2).


    "Compassion towards the wicked is really wickedness. It is along these lines that Rabbi Levi opened his speech in honor of Purim: (Talmud, Megillah, 11a): "If you do not uproot the inhabitants of the Land, and allow them to remain - they will become thorns in your sides, and will cause trouble for you in the Land in which you dwell." (Bamidbar 33:55) The mitzvah, then of wiping out Amalek [Palestinians], actually stems from the value of compassion and kindness - compassion on all those whom Amalek threatens to exterminate. This mitzvah is an ongoing one, and valid even today. Today, too, there are those ~ driven by a deep-seeded anti-Semitism - who desperately wish to kill us. These are the people whom the Torah commanded us to obliterate, to leave no memory of them." ~ Rabbi Zalman Baruch Melamed


    Nachman Abramovic demonized Palestinian children stating: “They may look young to you, but these people are terrorists at heart. Don’t look at their deceptively innocent faces, try to think of the demons inside each of them. I am absolutely certain these people would grow to be evil terrorists if we allowed them to grow. Would you allow them to grow to kill your children or finish them off right now? Honest and moral people ought to differentiate between true humans and human animals. We do kill human animals and we do so unapologetically. Besides, who in the West is in a position to lecture us on killing human animals. After all, whose hands are clean?”


    "Wars are the Jews’ harvest, for with them we wipe out the Christians and get control of their gold. We have already killed 100 million of them, and the end is not yet." ~ Chief Rabbi in France, in 1859, Rabbi Reichorn


    "The Communist soul is the soul of Judaism. Hence it follows that, just as in the Russian revolution the triumph of Communism was the triumph of Judaism, so also in the triumph of fascism will triumph Judaism." ~ Rabbi Harry Waton, A Program for the Jews and Humanity, p. 143-144


    If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there. ~ Moed Kattan 17a


    The Jewish people as a whole will become its own Messiah. It will attain world domination by the dissolution of other races, by the abolition of frontiers, the annihilation of monarchy and by the establishment of a world republic in which the Jews will everywhere exercise the privilege of citizenship. In this New World Order, the “children of Israel” will furnish all the leaders without encountering opposition. The governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will fall without difficulty into the hands of the Jews. It will then be possible for the Jewish rulers to abolish private property and everywhere to make use of the resources of the state. Thus will the promise of the Talmud be fulfilled in which it is said that when the Messianic time is come, the Jews will have all the property of the whole world in their hands. ~ Baruch Levy in a letter to Karl Marx.


    "My opinion of Christian Zionists? They're scum, but don't tell them that. We need all the useful idiots we can get right now." ~ Bibi Netanyahu


    It was hard for Satan alone to mislead the whole world, so he appointed prominent rabbis in different localities. ~ A Chasidic saying attributed to Nahman of Bratzlav, early 19th century


    Gentiles exist only to serve Jews as slaves. Goyim were only born to serve us. Without that they have no place in the world. Only to serve the people of Israel. Why are gentiles needed? They are only here to work. They will work, they will plow. They will reap. We will sit like effendi and eat. That is why gentiles were created,” Rabbi Yosef, Sha Party, Jerusalem Post, 2011


    "An example of the use of the Jewish code words Esau and Jacob is found in a sermon preached by Rabbi Leon Spitz during the Purim observances in 1946 (quoted here from the American Hebrew of March 1, 1946) : "Let Esau whine and wail and protest to the civilized world, and let Jacob raise his hand to fight the good fight. The anti-Semite . . . understands but one language, and he must be dealt with on his own level. The Purim Jews stood up for their lives. American Jews, too. must come to grips with our contemporary anti-Semites. We must fill our jails with anti-Semitic gangsters. We must fill our insane asylums with anti-Semitic lunatics. We must combat every alien. Jew-hater. We must Harass and prosecute our Jew-baiters to the extreme limits of the laws. We must humble and shame our anti-Semitic hoodlums to such an extent that none will wish or dare to become (their) 'fellow-travelers'.


    This is what Trotsky, a Jew, was preparing for the Russians for the implementation of Communism, which Marx based on the Babylonian Talmud for Gentiles:

    "We should turn Her (Russia) into a desert populated with white Niggers. We will impose upon them such a tyranny that was never dreamt by the most hideous despots of the East. The peculiar trait of that tyranny is that it will be enacted from the left rather than the right and it will be red rather than white in color.

    Its color will be red literally because we would spill such torrents of blood that they will pale all human losses of the capitalist wars and make the survivors shudder.


    Remember my children, that all the earth must belong to us Jews, and that the gentiles, being mere excrements of animals, must possess nothing. ~ Mayer Amschel Rothschild on his deathbed, 1812


    The largest overseas banks will cooperate with us most closely. If we win the Revolution and squash Russia, on the funeral pyres of its remains we will strengthen the power of Zionism and become a power the whole world would drop in the face of on its knees. We will show the world what real power means.

    By way of terror and blood baths we will bring the Russian intelligentsia into a state of total stupor, to idiocy, to the animal state of being. So far our young men dressed in leather ~ the sons of watch repair men from Odessa and Orsha, Gomel and Vinnitza ~ oh, how beautifully, how brilliantly do they master hatred of everything Russian! With what a great delight do they physically destroy the Russian intelligentsia ~ officers, engineers, teachers, priests, generals, agronomists, academicians, writers!" ~ Secret Forces in History of Russia. U.K. Begunov 1995, p 148


    One of the finest things ever done by the mob was the Crucifixion of Christ. Intellectually it was a splendid gesture. But trust the mob to bungle the job. If I’d had charge of executing Christ, I’d have handled it differently. You see, what I’d have done was had him shipped to Rome and fed him to the lions. They could never have made a saviour out of mincemeat!”~ Rabbi Ben Hecht


    The only reason that Jews are in pornography is that we think that Christ sucks. Catholicism sucks.”~ Al Goldstein (publisher of Screw Magazine).


    "The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews ~ all of them in all different levels ~ is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle." ~ Rabbi Kook, the Elder, father of the messianic tendency of Jewish fundamentalism, said


    "You have not begun to appreciate the depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom of not merely the latest Great War, but of every other major revolution in your history.

    We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone." ~ Marclis Eli Ravage, Century Magazine February, 1926.


    "The United Nations is nothing but a trap-door to the Red World's immense concentration camp. We pretty much control the U.N." ~ Harold Wallace Rosenthal, Zionist, The Hidden Tyranny


    Very soon, every American will be required to register their biological property (that’s you and your children) in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will affect our security as a charge back for our fiat paper currency.

    Every American will be forced to register or suffer being able to work and earn a living. They will be our chattels (property) and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions. Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading (Birth Certificate) to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, secured by their pledges.

    They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability.

    After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debts to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges. This will inevitably reap us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud, which we will call “Social Insurance.”

    Without realizing it, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and we will employ the high office (presidency) of our dummy corporation (USA) to foment this plot against America.” ~ American traitor, the Jew Edward Mandell House giving a very detailed outline of the New World Order plans that were to be implemented gradually over time to enslave the American people ... A PLAN THAT HAS BEEN REPEATED IN CANADA, AUSTRALIA, BRITAIN AND ELSEWHERE.


    "You throw a little Jewish on top of that, you got trouble. You got a bunch of wild, crazy energy.

    "Sorry that doesn't sound hippie. Sorry that doesn't sound like communal jubilant fun. Sorry I'm not a Pepper. Sorry I didn't pop out of a soda-pop ad, and life is just one big fucking cabaret, because a lot of what propelled Van Halen, what compels me and propels me is precisely this element. It's fury. If you approach me with anti-Semetic preconceptions, I'm not here to re-educate. I come from a whole different school of thought. If you don't get it on the first try, fuck you.

    "I once heard somebody say to the Van Halens, "You guys play the music; the Jew sells it." Well, you're fucking right. And now that I'm gone, Van Halen stinks. Okay?

    "Want to know why some of my contributions to Van Halen sound like they do? Didn't come from a smiling place in my soul. Not at all.

    "Nobody ever said to Mick Jagger, "So, Mick, you're Episcopalian, aren't you?" Nobody ever took Jimi Hendrix aside and said, "So, Jimi, you're a Baptist, aren't you?" Much less start off the interview that way.

    "Every step I took on that stage was smashing some Jew-hating, lousy punk ever deeper into the deck. Every step. I jumped higher 'cause I knew there was going to be more impact when I hit those boards. And if you were even vaguely anti-Semetic, you were under my wheels, motherfucker. That's where the lyrics came from, that's where the body language came from, that's where the humor came from, and where the fuck you came from. All equally as important. You want to know the ingredients? Don't ask if you don't want to know.

    "What you get from repression and what you get from hatred is fury, and fury was one of the main trigger points for the great Van Halen. What you see now is a bunch of buffoons waddling around at the family barbecue, and their wives admonishing the children saying, "Don't worry, Daddy's just had a few too many Coors Lights and he's imitating what he used to do for a living when he played music, honey."

    "What's missing is the testosterone. What's missing is the fury. What's missing is the passionate convicted commitment. And I got a lot of mine from my religious background. So y'all best stop imagining the way Dr. Zorba looked, or some defenseless Hasidic Jew with a little yarmulke on his head, 'cause that ain't here for you." ~ David Lee Roth


    Rabbi Isaac Wise, in The Israelite of America writes, “Masonry is a Jewish institution whose history, degrees, charges, passwords, and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end


    “We infiltrated the Roman Catholic Church right from the very beginning. Why do you think the Pope, the Cardinals and all the Bishops wear yarlmulkahs? (skullcaps) The white race never figures this out. A thousand years later the white race began to wake up ... we had to come up with a plan B ... so we formed the Jesuits. There was a nice boy, Ignatius Loyola. He started the Jesuits.” (Loyola was Jewish. Research/read the Jesuit Extreme Oath) Regarding the Jesuits, quoting Rabbi Finkelstein


    Does worship of the Talmud pervade Judaism globally? Herman Wouk, Orthodox Jew and famed author of The Cain Mutiny, affirms, “The Talmud is to this day the circulating heart’s blood of the Jewish religion. Whatever laws, customs, ceremonies we observe ~ whether we are Orthodox, Reform,Conservative, or merely spasmodic sentimentalists ~ we follow the Talmud. It is our common law.”

    From Jews Must Liveby Samuel Roth, pg. 22. “The organ is diseased. This disease is a sort of moral gonorrhea known as Judaism, which, alas, seems to be incurable. If you have any doubts, look at any Jew ridden country in Europe. If you need to be further convinced, take a look at what is happening in the United States.”


    “Every synagogue we Jews build in a Christian country is a finger of scorn we point at our hosts; a sore finger we stick into their eyes, like the leering of a senile old woman who does all sorts of foul mischief before you, and feels safe in the knowledge that you will not lay hands on her for fear of contamination.” ibid., pg.


    Sen. Al Franken: One of the widely disseminated stories was that no Jews died in the collapse of the Trade Towers because they had received calls telling them not to go to work that day.

    To tell you the truth, I got the Jew call. I had an office in the Trade Center where I used to do most of my writing. The call came from former New York mayor Ed Koch. “Al,” he told me, “don’t go to work on the twenty-third day of Elul [September 11, 2001.].”


    Tell me, do the evil men of this world have a bad time? They hunt and catch whatever they feel like eating. They don’t suffer from indigestion and are not punished by Heaven. I want Israel to join that club. Maybe the world will then at last begin to fear us…Maybe they will start to tremble, to fear our madness instead of admiring our nobility. Let them tremble, let them call us a mad state. Let them understand that we are a wild country, dangerous to our surroundings, not normal, that we might go crazy, that we might go wild and burn all the oil fields in the Middle East, or that we might start World War Three just like that. ~ Ariel Sharon